Only 3 months to Moab...

[BigSwede]

Oh H3LL yeah...I don't think anyone cares who/what's in the lead, as long as we don't get lost too often...

OK, well we're not doing Fins 'n Things then... although I don't think I've ever gotten lost more than once there...but always at least once!

Well let's talk about this, whether I lead or not. [gets out new, 2nd edition, spiral bound, Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-wheel Drive Trails ]

I was thinking of going to Elephant Hill again, love that trail...but you guys did it a few years ago. If you guys could keep moving along we could go do the Joint Trail hike along the way, very cool. But I suspect with a group that large it would be problematic to do all that without getting back very late.

I've never done Top of the World, have you guys?

Thompson Canyon/Polar Mesa looks interesting, climbs to 8000 feet in the La Sal mountains, and starts on Onion Creek Road which offers a bunch of creek crossings early on.

Chicken Corners or Bull Canyon might be good choices.

Hey Joe Canyon might be good, except for likely brush scratches...

Thoughts?

[Scott Harness]

I've always wanted to do Top of the World!!

[pbkid]

just my 2 cents.....but...

a creek crossing trail probably isnt the best thing to do for the newbie's as that generally creates 'pin-striping' that some may not want on their ride.. (i dont give a crap, i just got done ripping my mirror off)

but thats just what i think...how bout hell's revenge?? easy trail, has some challenges... stock VX should have no problems at all...always a good one for newbs (i know we have all done it a bazillion times, but for the new guys its a legendary trail)

or poison spider?? their are bypasses around anything crazy on that trail...

[MSHardeman]

Did Top of the World a couple of Moab's ago, and it is fairly easy. I don't remember there being anything that a stock VX couldn't handle. I remember it being relatively short too (compaired to some all day VX runs of years past).

Hell's Revenge isn't too bad, but the first obsticle (mini Lion's Back) freaked the crud out of me so I would think a first timer would really wig out. I also seem to remember some long climbs that the VX can handle, but could be a little unsettling to newbies.

Just my two cents, but I'm up for anything.....almost.

[VX KAT]

Hell's Revenge isn't too bad, but the first obsticle (mini Lion's Back) freaked the crud out of me so I would think a first timer would really wig out. I also seem to remember some long climbs that the VX can handle, but could be a little unsettling to newbies.

I was a noob and stock...I can't even recall that obstacle....maybe was just so intoxicated with the cool scenery and everything was new to me. Rubble trouble at the end of Hell's Revenge was the only part I recall as being that challenging for stock height. Didn't someone say they changed/re-routed the end of that trail and rubble trouble is no more?

[VX crazy]

I think we should rename it, warm up day, and not vx only run since there are others in our fam that dont have vx.....and we could pick something very pretty to look at, I know the La Sal mountains are gorgeous and last year was my first time going up there, boy had I been missing out! So if we do warm up day, and pick something that we can all warm up on....I know I am nervous as I havent taken my own VX out there since 2005!! And I had a full skid plate which I no longer have......so easy with no clearance probs is my choice!

[BigSwede]

a creek crossing trail probably isnt the best thing to do for the newbie's as that generally creates 'pin-striping' that some may not want on their ride.. (i dont give a crap, i just got done ripping my mirror off)

The creek crossings on Onion Creek Road are on an actual dirt road, no brush to cause striping. Maybe some angst for the buff 'n shine sorts though...

[Kenny]

I know technically we're not supposed to formally pick trails here, but if you email me a few options, I'll plug the waypoints into my GPS from the "BOOK" and help out.

I didn't get quite lost on fins n things a few years back...
not for too long anyways...

OK, well we're not doing Fins 'n Things then... although I don't think I've ever gotten lost more than once there...but always at least once!

Well let's talk about this, whether I lead or not. [gets out new, 2nd edition, spiral bound, Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-wheel Drive Trails ]

I was thinking of going to Elephant Hill again, love that trail...but you guys did it a few years ago. If you guys could keep moving along we could go do the Joint Trail hike along the way, very cool. But I suspect with a group that large it would be problematic to do all that without getting back very late.

I've never done Top of the World, have you guys?

Thompson Canyon/Polar Mesa looks interesting, climbs to 8000 feet in the La Sal mountains, and starts on Onion Creek Road which offers a bunch of creek crossings early on.

Chicken Corners or Bull Canyon might be good choices.

Hey Joe Canyon might be good, except for likely brush scratches...

Thoughts?

[BigSwede]

I know technically we're not supposed to formally pick trails here, but if you email me a few options, I'll plug the waypoints into my GPS from the "BOOK" and help out.

I didn't get quite lost on fins n things a few years back...
not for too long anyways...

Heh, I don't think I have heard of anybody not getting lost, at least a little, leading FnT. Fortunately when I got lost I was able to discover and correct my error pretty quickly. But somebody GPS savvy along wouldn't hurt...

BTW do you have the 2nd edition? I believe all the waypoints have been updated and improved.

[Scott Harness]

BTW do you have the 2nd edition? I believe all the waypoints have been updated and improved.

I've got the 2nd Edition if somebody needs the waypoints.

[tjh]

I looked online for way-points in moab ,but the ones I found seem to a bit old, like from 01. So I guess what I have isn't uptodate . If'n you have way-points to share, I'd be interested .

[Kenny]

yup, that nice spiral bound copy.

Heh, I don't think I have heard of anybody not getting lost, at least a little, leading FnT. Fortunately when I got lost I was able to discover and correct my error pretty quickly. But somebody GPS savvy along wouldn't hurt...

BTW do you have the 2nd edition? I believe all the waypoints have been updated and improved.

[Moncha]

...I've never done Top of the World, have you guys?

Thompson Canyon/Polar Mesa looks interesting, climbs to 8000 feet in the La Sal mountains, and starts on Onion Creek Road which offers a bunch of creek crossings early on.

Chicken Corners or Bull Canyon might be good choices.

Hey Joe Canyon might be good, except for likely brush scratches...

Thoughts?

Top of the World is a very nice trip with fantastic views! It would be a good first run for anyone or a good trip for those have or have not done it. Aww hell, it would be a good trip!

[VX crazy]

Top of the World is a very nice trip with fantastic views! It would be a good first run for anyone or a good trip for those have or have not done it. Aww hell, it would be a good trip!

Scott, I think that is one trail I have never been on.....

[pbkid]

its amazing how much that looks like the top of gold bar rim... thats a great trail for a first timer!

it was my first trail in moab and i loved it. the only part that takes a little extra guts is the wall you have to go down. (tone doin the wall in the mercedes -'RIP')