I agree with ldub.....
I agree with ldub.....
Ask forgiveness, not permission.
Yeah, I tend to agree with LDUB as well, however I also will say this. I personally love my VX so much, that I have taken it 'out of service' so to speak, as my full time daily driver. Why? Because I want to decrease the probability of getting in a wreck or acquiring some damage that would force me to need to replace body parts.
Body parts are going to be what dries up. I think we are seeing this already.
The bottom line is this: The VX is a rare, halo vehicle that is destined to become an even rarer collector car.
So you have 3 options, IMO.
1) Buy a VX and baby it, keep it as a collector car, driving it as little as possible.
2) Buy a VX worry free and drive the heck out of it and have a blast and don't worry about the consequences.
3) Buy something like a Toyota 4Runner so you will have the comfort of knowing you can get parts for it.
If I were in your shoes, I would opt for option 2, with option 1 in mind a few years from now. I am personally at option 1 right now, and I will likely stay there forever, especially once I get some body work done.
Whatever you choose, know that we are here to help you!
Bart
That's a bit harsh don't you think? Personally I think it's a pretty reasonable concern for a new owner - regardless of how "hardcore" you are about owning a VX and finding parts, the ugly truth is that it can be downright expensive, and likely to only get worse over time. Don't relegate the guy to a Camry just because he's doing diligent research.
FWIW, I say take the plunge. As others have pointed out, the mechanicals are more or less readily available, and I can attest from endless eBay searches that body panels and cladding are available if you're patient.
GO FOR IT!!!
Ummmmmm...no.
That opinion is based on years of experience.
IMO, if you're not "OMG, that's the coolest PUV on the planet...I just GOTTA have one" right outta the gate, then 9 times out of 10, people will research & research & reasearch & research, then eventually fade away...
Even if you ARE "OMG, that's the coolest PUV on the planet...I just GOTTA have one" right out of the gate, I still see a one in three chance you won't be around for 18 months...seen Tbigity around lately?
I see your "harsh" as a realistic way of looking at things, no offence meant to anyone...
Agreed, I'm the 4th owner of my VX, with the first owner garaging her for 6 years before selling her to two successive owners that loved the PUV idea but couldn't stomach the day-to-day reality of cargo space issues, etc. They each owned her for only a year before giving up.
So not really disagreeing with your first post, just pointing out the language of "better suited for a more pedestrian vehicle" could, in my opinion, be construed as a little condescending. Come on Dub, you're not turning into Riff on us are you!
T/J over, back to angeno - As you said this forum is very helpful and supportive if you do decide to jump back in, and in all seriouness LDub is one of our best examples. So is any of this changing your mind (in either direction)?
Yep, I want one. Never really stopped wanting one even when I had to sell the three I had previously owned. Long story there. Suffice to say, I did NOT sell because I didn't like the VX or thought it had limited cargo room or anything like that. When I had them, I used them every day. And loved driving them every day. So, I still want one BAD. And you guys are right. There really is nothing else in the world as cool or different or just plain fun as a Vehicross. I get that and I'm right there with you. So anyway, now it is just a function of finding the right one, striking a deal and then hopefully never having to sell it again.
Thanks for appreciating the gist of what I was trying to communicate VT Maverick, Triathlete and other empathetic folks. I've owned several examples of the VX, including purchasing my first one off the showroom floor of the Isuzu dealer in Aurora, CO in 1999 so I definitely understand what it is you guys love about the VX. What really won me over though was a monster snowstorm in New Jersey in 2003. Without drifts, the depth had to be 3 1/2 feet. EVERYTHING was getting stuck. But not me. I just stuck my VX in 4L and plowed through, over and sometimes under the muck. A bit scary but mostly way FUNNNNN!! Also, now that I live in the Northeast, I have new appreciation and respect for potholes. There are holes in the road here that look like they are the result of either giant asphalt eating rats or very small asteroids. Either way, they tend to DESTROY the suspension of most 4 wheeled conveyances. But not a Vehicross. For a period of time my wife drove our VX from NJ into NYC every day. She loved the way the thing just shrugged off expansion joints, potholes, dead mafioso dumped on the parkway, or what have you...
And no, I'm not a wimp afraid to dig a little, work a little, pay a bit more and improvise when necessary. However, I did think it sensible to gauge the scope and breadth of the challenges I might face as a VX owner in 2010. If there are several key pieces that regularly break that are almost impossible to find, I thought that might be a good thing for me to know up front. I'm relieved to read that this does not appear to be the case, so thank you for helping me understand that. I'll touch base when I acquire my VX and hope to provide useful input as well as camaraderie to the group. Until then, enjoy your awesome toys and I hope to join you soon.
[quote=angeno;197192]Thanks for appreciating the gist of what I was trying to communicate VT Maverick, Triathlete and other empathetic folks. I've owned several examples of the VX, including purchasing my first one off the showroom floor of the Isuzu dealer in Aurora, CO in 1999 so I definitely understand what it is you guys love about the VX. What really won me over though was a monster snowstorm in New Jersey in 2003. Without drifts, the depth had to be 3 1/2 feet. EVERYTHING was getting stuck. But not me. I just stuck my VX in 4L and plowed through, over and sometimes under the muck. A bit scary but mostly way FUNNNNN!! Also, now that I live in the Northeast, I have new appreciation and respect for potholes. There are holes in the road here that look like they are the result of either giant asphalt eating rats or very small asteroids. Either way, they tend to DESTROY the suspension of most 4 wheeled conveyances. But not a Vehicross. For a period of time my wife drove our VX from NJ into NYC every day. She loved the way the thing just shrugged off expansion joints, potholes, dead mafioso dumped on the parkway, or what have you...
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North east roads are far away the worsts roads out there.
Potholes & bumps are all the rulling guys over here & cars aren't built for that king of stuffs.
Th fact that ISUZU is out-of-business here in the states really complicates the odds for every present & future VX onwers,and the more the times goes by it becomes more complicated for VX owners to keep these magnificients trucks on the road.
If you are up for owning another VX again i don't see why you shouldn't,specially if you can afford another DD so the VX can be enjoyed on the weekends & during winter seasons.
Dakar was just the begining.
I've had mine for just over a year now and although I've had problems with it I'd buy another tomorrow.
As has been said, mechanical parts are easy to get. Body parts are a constant source of worry, but I'll cross that bridge if (hopefully never!) I come to it!
The problems I've had have both been electrical - One was a small 'g sensor' fitted under the truck near the fuel tank. It went faulty and caused the VX to stutter and stall. Took weeks to narrow the fault down and when I did, took several more to find the part. But thanks to the guys 'n' gals on here, I got the part and shipped to the UK for just over $100.
The other fault is the drivers door window switch. It also controls the central locking so that didn't work, nor did the windows. Being RHD, the part is onlt available from Isuzu and isn't used on any other vehicles - cost = $500
So as I said - love the truck and would get another, but the ability to source the rarer parts does concern!
Nick
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One of the things I'm CONSIDERING doing in the future (knock on wood; in over a year of ownership and 11K miles, I've had ZERO problems) is actually buying a whole 'nuther VX in VG+ shape as a "donor vehicle". After all, compared to what I would have to pay to replace my VX with an appropriate new vehicle, i'm still "money ahead" doing something like this. Even with monthly storage, not having to tag/insure it, it wouldn't be THAT expensive to do. Then again, maybe I'm just drinking my own bathwater...