Conceal to carry - if so what? Or what do you own?

[BigSwede]

Luckily I live in Australia, and with the lack of guns on the street, and my hand to hand combat training, I have zero need to live in fear. If I am within 10 feet of someone, I can have them unconscious, or dead, within 2 seconds if I have to.

What about those folks who don't have "hand to hand combat training", or the physical aptitude to even use it, such as the elderly, small women, handicapped, etc.? How do they defend themselves? Or are they at the mercy of the good will of people such as you?

[Marlin]

Ijust got a lead on a Kel-tek 380. Brand new, 3 extra magazines, gun safe, 200 bucks. The guy bought it for his wife for a Bday present in the summer, now they are getting divorced. SHe never even fired it. Sounds like a good xmas present for the wife Thanks for the lead on the Kel-teks Billy.

[PK]

What about those folks who don't have "hand to hand combat training", or the physical aptitude to even use it, such as the elderly, small women, handicapped, etc.? How do they defend themselves? Or are they at the mercy of the good will of people such as you?

Same thing as if you are not the quickest to draw and shoot I guess - you loose.
But at least here, 99.5% of the time, all you are likely to loose is a verbal argument, or a fist fight - not your life.

Don't get me wrong guys - I am not totally against guns, or your rights to carry them in your country if you want.
I especially recognise Sue's point - we have never had to fight a war on our own soil, or against each other. That would have embedded a need to carry a gun for decades.

I just feel sorry that you still feel the need to do so.
Okay I have my training, but I received that training for a purpose and I still carry it in my civilian life.
Although I have to 'fess up here and admit it was a fair while ago, and I am not as fast and agile as I used to be.

As an outsider to your country, I would never have the cheek to suggest your laws should be changed (except maybe which side of the road you drive on, and catching up to the rest of the world to the metric system).

Crap - now I've gone done it - where is that flame proof smiley??

PK

[Marlin]

As an outsider to your country, I would never have the cheek to suggest your laws should be changed (except maybe which side of the road you drive on, and catching up to the rest of the world to the metric system).

Crap - now I've gone done it - where is that flame proof smiley??

PK

You are 100% right on the metric thing....but driving on the other side of the road?!! You guys are just weird. You can keep your kangaroo sack storage pouches as well!!!

I spent a few days in Brisbane, went to the australia zoo, was molested by a Koala bear, went to all kinds of places out in the glass mountain area (not sure the actual town names, but lots of wineries, shopping...)
I saw more kangaroo sack tourist souvenirs than I could have imagined. Of course I bought a few of em Keep your valuables dry with a seamless leather pouch!!! How can one resist that?

Back to the guns, if your people don't have guns, how could you ever possibly overthrow your government if you needed to? If they have the only weapons, it sounds like an easy step to tyranny and dictatorship with no hope of retaliation?

[spaceCADETzoom]

Don't get me wrong guys - I am not totally against guns, or your rights to carry them in your country if you want.
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I just feel sorry that you still feel the need to do so.

I guess my point was lost...but why are you afraid of your fellow citizen, human being, at all? I feel sorry you feel that you don't trust your neighbor enough to buy a simple inanimate object in a civilized society. I trust my fellow citizen, and I think that's a measure of a civilized society. I have no inherent mistrust in my neighbor and find it sad others do.

[djvx]

[QUOTE=PK;214548]Same thing as if you are not the quickest to draw and shoot I guess - you loose.
But at least here, 99.5% of the time, all you are likely to loose is a verbal argument, or a fist fight - not your life.

Hey I thought Australians all carried those big 'ol Bowie Knives...Or did I see that in a movie once...

[Triathlete]

Hey I thought Australians all carried those big 'ol Bowie Knives...Or did I see that in a movie once...

"Thats not a knife..."