BUT... I'll have to see. Seems every penny I have is going to the new house or some sort of bill associated to the new house. Not to mention work...Ahhhh the price I pay for summers off. The trip will be a spectacular one, with the fall colors being a full blaze. Hope at least a couple western VXers can witness the "colors" If I can go, I'll most likely know only a day or two in advance. And I'll be the mad man scrambling to find a site or setting up with a fellow VXer. I really wanna go...carlymac