Your time savings starting a new thread are really just passing the needed time for others to answer your question that has already been answered on another thread. Not to be an *** butthat is why I always do the have you done a search yet? People do not want to waste their time looking but are okay wasting other peoples time having to answer or in some case do a search for them. Some really nice members will find the info in multiple forms and attach it here it takes their time to do that. Time is like government money there is no free lunch to give it away to someone you have to take it away from a person who earned it