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    Acura 3.5?????? The same??

    I have seen a couple post showing that an Acura 3.5L will bolt up to the TOD set up. First off......is this true. Secondly.....what would be the benifits?? What kind of specs does the acura have?? (HP & TQ)?? Honestly the only reason i'm asking is because they seem to be quite a bit cheeper. Do you know if our accessories will fit as well?

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    The "Acura SLX" was a lightly upgraded and re-badged Isuzu Trooper sold by the Acura division of Honda from 1995 to 1999. From 1998 it had the same 3.5L 215 hp engine as the VX.

    I don't know if it would mate cleanly to the TOD. The primary benefit would be another source of engines. The engines from that period are thought to be somewhat prone to failure.

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    Thats what i was curious about was the bolting. some of the newer 3.5 Acura motors boast 300HP which would be rediculously nice in the little VX. If they bolt the same then everything else should be able to overcame even if it required using the Acura harness/computer/accessories. I found one with 47k miles on it for $1400 and that was with the 300HP!!!

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    I beleive the newer 3.5L Accura motors are an different Honda design.

    Honda had a J series Single Overhead Cam 3.5L 60 degree V6 of a design different than the Isuzu engine.

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    I was afraid that might be the case!!! Thanks for the help though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsallade01 View Post
    Thats what i was curious about was the bolting. some of the newer 3.5 Acura motors boast 300HP which would be rediculously nice in the little VX. If they bolt the same then everything else should be able to overcame even if it required using the Acura harness/computer/accessories. I found one with 47k miles on it for $1400 and that was with the 300HP!!!
    Once i overheard that acura's MDX engine was built at an isuzu's plant by honda's design & specifications.

    I have no idea if that engine is compatible,but if it does you also have to swap the VX's transmission because it can handle up to 285 lbs of torque.

    The 2001 oldsmobile aurora V-8 4.0L with 250hp is the best bet when it comes to looking into swapping engines because of its similarity with our V-6.

    It fits almost perfectly except that you'll need to do some work with the tranmission's housing bolts
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    I've thought about the Aurora 4.0 as well. what type of modifications to the bolts would be needed? As far as only handling 285 ftlbs, i dont know the specs on the acura motor other than the 300 HP. I would guess its close to the 285 ftlbs but would doubt if it was over that. Just curious if you had the info in the torque. I ddn't see it.
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    ok, i had a couple listings mixed up. it has 51k out of an 05 Acura RL but its only $1100.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsallade01 View Post
    I've thought about the Aurora 4.0 as well. what type of modifications to the bolts would be needed? As far as only handling 285 ftlbs, i dont know the specs on the acura motor other than the 300 HP. I would guess its close to the 285 ftlbs but would doubt if it was over that. Just curious if you had the info in the torque. I ddn't see it.
    In regards of the aurora engine i think one or few of the transmission's housing bolts would need a slight relocation mod in order to fit properly.

    Here are both,the VX & the 2005-2011 MDX engine-drivetrain specs

    Vehicross : V6 3.5L DOHC 215hp @ 5,400rpm torque 230ft-lbs @ 3,000rpm

    2011 MDX : V6 3.7L SOHC 300hp @ 6,300rpm torque 270ft-lbs @ 4,500rpm 2005 MDX : V6 3.5L SOHC 265hp @ 5,800rpm torque 253ft-lbs @ 3,500rpm

    As you can see the 2005 acura seems to be better suit for our VX then the 2011 in regards of power

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gussie2000 View Post
    In regards of the aurora engine i think one or few of the transmission's housing bolts would need a slight relocation mod in order to fit properly.

    Here are both,the VX & the 2005-2011 MDX engine-drivetrain specs

    Vehicross : V6 3.5L DOHC 215hp @ 5,400rpm torque 230ft-lbs @ 3,000rpm

    2011 MDX : V6 3.7L SOHC 300hp @ 6,300rpm torque 270ft-lbs @ 4,500rpm 2005 MDX : V6 3.5L SOHC 265hp @ 5,800rpm torque 253ft-lbs @ 3,500rpm

    As you can see the 2005 acura seems to be better suit for our VX then the 2011 in regards of power
    I agree but it doesn't seem like the 3.7 would be out of range for the VX either. interesting!!! do you know if either one would be a direct bolt on to our tranny? even with the 05 its almost 25% more power!! Thats a chunk!!

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    A grand for 50hp is pretty hard to swallow. If you just want another 50hp get a cheap nitrous kit and a FMU set up. Shouldn't be impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsallade01 View Post
    I agree but it doesn't seem like the 3.7 would be out of range for the VX either. interesting!!! do you know if either one would be a direct bolt on to our tranny? even with the 05 its almost 25% more power!! Thats a chunk!!
    Yes 300hp couldn't be bad at all,but our tranny can't handle that amount of power.

    Is more likely that our tranny might not be a direct bolt to the acura's engine.

    Our tranny which was designed by GM (4L30E ) was discontinued in the early 2000's for the more efficient and reliable 5-speed 5L40-E/5L50 tranny that is not suitable for our VX although is almost identical. Our tranny is very old,all the way from the early 90's according to GM's public data.
    Our tranny was 1rst used in the 1991 BMW 525-i series and last used in the 2001 trooper,Vehicross and honda passport/isuzu rodeo V6

    Is a fact that if you want more power you'll have to do a entire swap ( engine & tranny ) including electronics,wiring,fuel system,ECU,etc.

    With a good sack of $$ any thing is possible speaking of


    I have no idea is the 4L30-E tranny is a direct bolt to the acura's engine.Need to do some research

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gussie2000 View Post
    Yes 300hp couldn't be bad at all,but our tranny can't handle that amount of power.

    Is more likely that our tranny might not be a direct bolt to the acura's engine.

    Our tranny which was designed by GM (4L30E ) was discontinued in the early 2000's for the more efficient and reliable 5-speed 5L40-E/5L50 tranny that is not suitable for our VX although is almost identical. Our tranny is very old,all the way from the early 90's according to GM's public data.
    Our tranny was 1rst used in the 1991 BMW 525-i series and last used in the 2001 trooper,Vehicross and honda passport/isuzu rodeo V6

    Is a fact that if you want more power you'll have to do a entire swap ( engine & tranny ) including electronics,wiring,fuel system,ECU,etc.

    With a good sack of $$ any thing is possible speaking of


    I have no idea is the 4L30-E tranny is a direct bolt to the acura's engine.Need to do some research
    sounds like anything over the 250hp range would require a complete powertrain swap...........Things that make you go HMMMMMM...
    guess I really need to find out if its possible to swap the 05 Acura motor or go with the Aurora V8. I actually really like the sound of the V8 in the VX

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    What about the LS1 guys that still use the 4L30E and push closer to 300hp? You can find this one FBody forums. What is the maximum threshold of hp? I have a 3800LS1 Firebird as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Barker View Post
    A grand for 50hp is pretty hard to swallow. If you just want another 50hp get a cheap nitrous kit and a FMU set up. Shouldn't be impossible.
    I was thinking about an engine swap when and if the time comes. Really dont want the issues some NOS kit cause with the pistons and what not.

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