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Hey Kat, very nice but I don't like the way your guy cut the shroud. I know removing it completely decreases cooling capability but I wonder how much you lose with that hole up there? Maybe you can fab up a cover for the hole that the blades won't hit?
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I saw it the other day. I don't think that hole will cause any appreciable decrease in airflow through the radiator. If she fixes it, it will only be for aesthetics. I gave her some cladding material that she could use to cover the hole though.
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Put a smiley after you say that Bub.
Super VXer
Are these going to be readily available or built to order? Or, is it just a one-off?
What's the weight comparison to the OEM or aftermarket equivalent? (I have some GM model since my old one went POP but it's the same really) Anywhere I can shave weight, I am a happy camper.
Have to agree though, that shroud needs some TLC. Also curious, since the shroud has been slightly relocated, I wonder if this would affect the S/C belt. Highly doubt it, but just thinking out loud.
Gary Noonan
'01 S/C VX / '18 Forester XT
Super VXer
Sue thanks for sending this to me, as I am too lazy to search here lol, anyone know temp values before and after this? Anyone else have this radiator? I would love to know a temp number that Sue ran in AZ heat with that new radiator.
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Weird these posts with my answers didn't show up until I posted this......
Super VXer
Ryan do you remember what brand fan clutch you got? I see 2 on amazon and a third on autozone.......
Super VXer
See posts #28 and #37 above, I gave some scangauge temps.Originally Posted by VX crazy
VX KAT
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I may be interested in this bigger radiator. Sue, I'd like to see if it fixes your engine temp problems during the summer. I've always had problems with my engine temp during 90F+ summer days with AC running. The engine temp climbs way up until I turn off the AC & it drops like a rock back to the normal operating temp... its strange.
Super VXer
As to weight, I would guess 3 lbs more than stock and almost a gallon more in fluid at 8 lbs/gal. Total guess at 10lbs. We could start a lottery.
Roy
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I'm wondering for those of you having overheating problems if going to a lower temperature "themostat" may be worthwhile??? Our OEM factory VX thermostat is rated at 170-degrees. During an internet search, the lowest temperature aftermarket thermostat I could find for the VX was 160-degrees (see "link" below).
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...gs+Best+Seller
Perhaps changing to a 160-degree thermostat may help.
Super VXer
Thats a good idea and is worth looking more into. Too bad the thermostat is at the bottom of the engineI'm wondering for those of you having overheating problems if going to a lower temperature "themostat" may be worthwhile??? Our OEM factory VX thermostat is rated at 170-degrees. During an internet search, the lowest temperature aftermarket thermostat I could find for the VX was 160-degrees (see "link" below).
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...gs+Best+Seller
Perhaps changing to a 160-degree thermostat may help.
. Its almost worth spending $600 on a bigger radiator just to not deal with pulling the engine apart.
Also, the torqflo fan clutch works very well at cooling the engine. It makes the engine sound like a semi (all fan sound) and pulls a noticable amount of power from the engine. I couldn't handle the sound after a couple months and replaced it with a another brand.
Super VXer
Huh??? Are you absolutely sure the VX Thermostat is located on the bottom of the engine (I've never heard of that before on any type of automotive engine)???Too bad the thermostat is at the bottom of the engine
Please see the engine diagram lay-out in Post #6 of the below thread by member "Deer Magnet". Part #1 (labeled "NSS" ~ aka Thermostat & gasket #66) of Section B shows that section B is mounted top-front-center of the engine block, and in VX-KAT's pictures of this thread show that it's located directly underneath the front center air snorkel coming from the air cleaner at the very top-front-center of the engine (not bottom of engine).
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...threadid=21611
Unless I'm mistaken; changing a thermostat on a VX is very easy and couldn't be more simplier, as it is located top-front-center of engine within easy reach.
Super VXer
Ummmmmm...not so much
I think he means under the intake manifold, which it is. (go pop your hood)
I've only ever heard of one person saying he was able to change the thermostat without removing the intake manifold, & he said it was such an undertaking that he would have pulled the intake & all the peripheral what-not, were he to do it again.
Also, that's the only way to be sure that all the O-rings etc are in place & properly sealed.
Since a pretty good percentage of 6VE1's prolly have their orig heater hoses, O-rings & intake gaskets intact, it's prolly worth pulling the intake....
Suzee, that rad is a thing of beauty....
Super VXer
Had to give me a hard time...huhHuh??? Are you absolutely sure the VX Thermostat is located on the bottom of the engine (I've never heard of that before on any type of automotive engine)???
Please see the engine diagram lay-out in Post #6 of the below thread by member "Deer Magnet". Part #1 (labeled "NSS" ~ aka Thermostat & gasket #66) of Section B shows that section B is mounted top-front-center of the engine block, and in VX-KAT's pictures of this thread show that it's located directly underneath the front center air snorkel coming from the air cleaner at the very top-front-center of the engine (not bottom of engine).
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...threadid=21611
Unless I'm mistaken; changing a thermostat on a VX is very easy and couldn't be more simplier, as it is located top-front-center of engine within easy reach.
. You can change "bottom" to "under stuff." I didn't mean the actual bottom, I was just expressing that its a lot of work to get to the thermostat. I haven't had a reason to pull the intake manifold yet on the VX but I've read several posts on the thermostat being a PITA to install. Dub knows.
Super VXer
Littlebeast, I bet you have the Torqflo... I ran that one years ago and it's a bit of a power suck...
After getting tired of the "semi truck fan," I went to Pepboys where I purchased another aftermarket fan clutch (It was blue-Hayden?). Sounded normal again but my engine started running hot again in hot weather+A/C. So I decided to bite the bullet for the FFD electric fans and immediately the engine ran hotter all the time. I ran the FFD fans for a couple months but it was during the winter and was worried I would get stranded somewhere on the first warm Spring day. A month before Moab 2012, I desperately pulled a junkyard OEM fan clutch off an older Isuzu Rodeo and BAM, problem solved. You can hear the fan but it's much less noticeable than the torqflo and I can run A/C whenever & wherever (i.e. stopped on a trail in Moab with 95 Degree weather).
Moral of the story? Start small and know that the aftermarket brands are not all created equal (or spec'd the same). In a pinch, the AutoZone Torqflo clutch will cool the engine but you'll definitely notice (and hear) it!!! The Rodeo's may have come with a better fan clutch than the VXes or it's just spec'd to pull a bit more air through the radiator. It's possible a 1st gen Rodeo aftermarket fan clutch might work the same as my OEM Rodeo junkyard clutch. If that doesn't fix the issue, I would move to a new radiator. Definitely skip the FFD fan setup and save yourself some hard earned cash (or if you want one, I'll sell it to you CHEAP).
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