Just for the record, I have an all-stock VX with no lift or lowering, no big wide tires, just normal street tires. I think the problem a lot of people have who are new to the VX is that they just don't know how to drive one. It is shorter than anything you've probably ever driven, other than a tiny car. I've never off roaded mine, except for the occasional dirt road. Mine is technically my street runner. There are roads here in Arkansas that are so curvy, I'm talking about 20 mph curves....and I've taken those curves at 60. I've taken 45 mph curves at 90. This magnificent vehicle is the most amazing thing I've ever driven, as long as you're a driver and not just an operator. STAY IN THE TROTTLE. That's the trick. NEVER brake around corners. If you do, you'll surely feel the ***** of it wanting to throw you off the road. Brake before them if you need to slow a little, but hit the gas going around them. Take the weight off the front....you will feel the weight shift. This IS a sports car, regardless of how many of you lift, throw on huge tires, and grunt around on big rocks. This thing was made for rally racing, not rock crawling...that's why it has TOD. I've not seen one VX member on here that actually uses theirs for its truest purpose. I feel like they're all held back and prevented from stretching their legs....like caged lions. I would say "all" but I'm just gonna say "some", of you have no idea what your VX's are capable of....