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    Question Pull to the left after lift...

    Hi,
    So it's been just over a year now since I lifted. Ever since then I have felt a slight pull to the left while at highway speeds. It's been annoying. I had it aligned twice now with no improvement.

    So, the other day I had my measuring tape out and measured from the top of the wheel rim to the fender. All but the front left were at 13.75".
    The left front is at 13.10-ish"

    Do you think this is enough to cause the pull?

    Should I just crank the torsion bar to see?
    I'm going to install the HD torsion bars soon, so alignment be damned.
    I just want to find the cause so I don't repeat it after the new bars are installed and it's aligned.

    Thoughts?
    Thanks!
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    I believe that that much of a difference could be causing your problem.

    But you'll need another alignment after you crank that torsion bar to level her out. Without the alignment, it'll still pull since the alignment took the height difference into account.
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    make sure your measuring with the rig on level ground such as a real flat parking lot.
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    First park you VX on a good, level piece of ground then find a static marker that is identical on both sides of the truck. I used the screws on the inside rear of the front wheel wells. Take a piece of string with a weight on one end and tape the other end to the screw head so that the weight is just touching the ground and make a mark at this spot with chalk or something. Now measure from the screw head to your mark. This will allow you to get a clean height measurement on both sides. Adjust your torsion bars accordingly then roll the vehicle back and forth a few times to let the suspension adjust. Make new marks and remeasure. Rinse and repeat until both sides are even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom4bren View Post
    I believe that that much of a difference could be causing your problem.
    But you'll need another alignment...
    Gotcha. Makes sense. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by djvx View Post
    make sure your measuring with the rig on level ground such as a real flat parking lot.
    Yep. I'm in my garage. Very flat. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidPony View Post
    First park you VX on a good, level piece of ground then find a static marker that is identical on both sides of the truck...
    Good method. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Triathlete View Post
    You're just not gangsta lean'in to the right enough!
    I'm almost to the point of getting a JDM to convert to RHD!
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    I think that the difference is definitely the cause of the pull.
    When I install the HD Torsion Bars I'll be more careful on the measurements...

    Thing is... I thought it WAS even when I did it. Maybe I'll take it off road a little and remeasure/adjust before getting it aligned.

    Thanks all.

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    With the stock T/bars, its well worth taking a small file
    and indexing the the bolt heads prior to cranking...
    ....we all forget how many turns we did t'other side


    When you fit the HD T/Bars...and get it all set level etc...
    ...maybe index right away, for reference in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoFotoz View Post
    With the stock T/bars, its well worth taking a small file
    and indexing the the bolt heads prior to cranking...
    ....we all forget how many turns we did t'other side


    When you fit the HD T/Bars...and get it all set level etc...
    ...maybe index right away, for reference in the future.

    jo
    Ditto. And driving it around will actually settle the bars some after adjusting. Just like with installing springs. I remeasure after about a week and it all is good then I get an alignment.

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    Good points.
    thanks guys.

    I was just thinking...

    If I get a good measurement of fender to rim on both fronts, shouldn't I be able to match the heights when installing the new bars and NOT have to realign? (With the slight drop on the left side left in.)

    thoughts?

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    Alignment is still required IMO...

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet75 View Post
    If I get a good measurement of fender to rim on both fronts, shouldn't I be able to match the heights when installing the new bars and NOT have to realign? (With the slight drop on the left side left in.)

    thoughts?
    Getting the lift equal on both sides is great, but that doesnt compensate
    for the change in geometry of "A" arms etc that occurs as a result of the lift.
    Toe in/out will change , and this will have repercussions relative to tire wear.


    Do get a second opinion on this, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.

    jo

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    I think what he's saying is that if he matches the post T-bar swap heights with the pre install heights, will he have to get an alignment. I'd say no, as long as you get everything dialed in and get an alignment before the swap. However, I would just hold off until after the swap and give the new bars some time to settle, then get an alignment done. Better yet, get an alignment from someplace that offers lifetime alignment and get one before and after.

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    Angry

    Darnit.... It's a moot point for a while.
    I just spoke to Independent4x... there is a waiting list to get the torsion bars. They are out, and won't be producing them for a couple months. AARGGGHH!


    Ok,
    Maybe I'll look into rear-end gears now. LOL
    This project money is burning a HOLE in my pocket!!!
    LOL

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    I'll tell ya a great way to spend the t/bar $$$'s...

    I'll be coming through Vegas on May 11th...

    ....fill up yer tank and follow me to Moab!

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    BELIEVE ME... I've been wanting to do Moab ever since I heard about it back in '03 when I bought the VX. My wedding anniversary is on the 20th, and we always try to do something special (trip) that week. Still working on my wife with Moab......

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    Trust me...

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet75 View Post
    BELIEVE ME... I've been wanting to do Moab ever since I heard about it back in '03 when I bought the VX. My wedding anniversary is on the 20th, and we always try to do something special (trip) that week. Still working on my wife with Moab......
    ...the "Stoop" is special!

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