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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingV77 View Post
    The FBI, SS, and COPS made the determination, not a trained mental health professorial. Also, they took him straight to the hospital that was waiting for him, in a pre planed detention.
    Directly from the linked article:
    Col. Thierry Dupuis, the county police chief, said Raub was taken into custody upon the recommendation of mental health crisis intervention workers.
    As a seperate comment: If the guy walked into a college (let's say, oh I don't know, Virginia Tech) and blows away 32 people, the public villifies the college and local law enforcement for ignoring warning signs and not forcing the shooter to get help. But apparently if government agencies act before a mass shooting it's a crazy overreach of power. Gotta love the irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vt_maverick View Post
    As a seperate comment: If the guy walked into a college (let's say, oh I don't know, Virginia Tech) and blows away 32 people, the public villifies the college and local law enforcement for ignoring warning signs and not forcing the shooter to get help. But apparently if government agencies act before a mass shooting it's a crazy overreach of power. Gotta love the irony.
    Unfortunately the actions of a minority are impacting the majority.....
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    Freedom of speech is of course one of the corner stones of this country.
    However, due the the actions of a few, we are very rapidly becoming
    a "better safe than sorry" culture.

    Its a pervasive trend that I don't see changing anytime soon.

    Obviously this often breaks down along political bias...
    ....which is a shame.
    Because frankly, given the 'climate'....I am a "better safe than sorry" proponent.

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    And our friend Mr. Benjamin Franklin would say:

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile High VX View Post
    And our friend Mr. Benjamin Franklin would say:

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    Safety may be temporary but death is definitely permanent.

    I tend to lean more towards liberty and freedom over Big Brother, but my views are "evolving" as Mitt might say, now that I have children of my own.

    Tough issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile High VX View Post
    And our friend Mr. Benjamin Franklin would say:

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile High VX View Post
    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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    Another good one:

    Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty -Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by vt_maverick View Post
    Directly from the linked article:


    As a seperate comment: If the guy walked into a college (let's say, oh I don't know, Virginia Tech) and blows away 32 people, the public villifies the college and local law enforcement for ignoring warning signs and not forcing the shooter to get help. But apparently if government agencies act before a mass shooting it's a crazy overreach of power. Gotta love the irony.


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