Transmission Rebuild in Progress: I'm in the really school now for VX OWNERS! WANTED!

[LeglizHemp]

well after keeping my kool and being patient with the dealer i am getting new brake pads and discs for all 4 wheels, new windshield wiper arms (mine were rusty), rear window defroster fixed and a rebuilt transmission plus getting car detailed all for $2400. not too bad i guess. but i think the dealership may go out of business next year since they lost isuzu and now are losing suzuki. so who covers the warranty on my new engine and tranny i'll have to investigate.

[HeckaTrebeka]

so who covers the warranty on my new engine and tranny i'll have to investigate.

I'm guessing Chevy/GM would be the ones to cover the warranty.

[CowboyErik]

What exactly is the weak link in our tranys? Can't seem to find it in the 100ks of posts. Is it the case or the internals? I'm back to work and ill be doing an engine swap and need to know wha I have to upgrade in the drivetrain to keep the tod

Transmission guy here in Cincy with alot of experiance and a huge shop just for laying out and rebuilding tranny's 5 days a week said the 4L30E evolved from what amounts to the tranny for a Chevy Chevet, the econo box; and it wasn't really meant for 4WD all the time let alone towing a payload while 4WD. He showed me the casing and similarities between cousins of the same tranny's, I was shocked, he also showed me the inside of the "intercooler" build in the the VX radiator, it's a total joke and not worthy of the name. We by-passed the stock intercooler alltogether and installed an auxilary intercooler. He showed me alot of the internal parts of the tranny in mine that were destroyed. They aren't heavy duty, and there are no heavy duty parts for this tranny. I got rebuilt for and a total exhaust refit for well under 2K and got a 12K warranty. So far so good. It never actually ran this well when I got it, never shifted this smooth. Guy before me had a class 3 hitch that I removed so it was abused. From what I have seen, I have to stand by what I said originally, we all have to rebuild at 75K or you'll be spending even more money for expensive parts. Even the CASE of my tranny had to be replaced due to worn shaft inputs, something that's never supposed to fail frankly so I got a deal at a flat rate repair price cause I needed everything, including a casing for my tranny..... long live the VX! I will drive mine on MARs in the year 2112! RUSH!

[evillecutter]

glad you got her going again!

the trans we have was put in beemers, cadillacs, troopers, acuras, and hondas - none of which i believe were originally meant to tow anything - i think most of the people on this site that have a hitch and tow know enough about precaution and maintaince to keep it from failing but im not surprised that it happens

[tom4bren]

glad you got her going again!

the trans we have was put in beemers, cadillacs, troopers, acuras, and hondas - none of which i believe were originally meant to tow anything - i think most of the people on this site that have a hitch and tow know enough about precaution and maintaince to keep it from failing but im not surprised that it happens

Light on the skinny pedal is what it's all about whilst towing ... but I tow with my '03 Eclipse too so what do I know???

[LeglizHemp]

finally got the car back this week. took them almost 7 weeks to do the work. lol bob rohrman on indy southside, these guys are on the ball. they did discount the repair heavily so thats a good thing. they say they will be around to cover the warranty on motor and trans because they will be covering suzuki warranties for long time. tranny seems kinda tight though, the shifter gets stuck and can't get key out sometimes or get shifter to move into gear sometimes. i'm sure this is temporary.

[BigSwede]

Read page 3 of this document, it talks about the history of the 4L30E, as well as some valuable advice for rebuilding.

http://www.transtec.com/downloads/re...2nd_q95r-n.pdf

[MSHardeman]

tranny seems kinda tight though, the shifter gets stuck and can't get key out sometimes or get shifter to move into gear sometimes.

There is a little switch that allows you to put the transmission into gear while depressing the brake pedal. If that switch is going out, or is not contacting the brake pedal correctly, it could stop you from putting the transmission into gear, or getting it fully into park allowing you to take the key out of the ignition.

Someone here replaced/repaired that switch a while ago and did a write up on it. I would have to do some hunting to find it if you need it.

[LeglizHemp]

thanks MSHardeman, if you find the link please post it. guess i'll take car back in since it should be covered under warranty.

[fotomaker]

Guy before me had a class 3 hitch that I removed so it was abused.

I put a trailer hitch on my VX, but, only for a bike rack!

[MSHardeman]

LH, here is the thread with all of the info that I was talking about:

http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...replace+switch

There's even a video that shows what needs to be replaced and where it lives in the VX. there is a switch up at the brake pedal and a solenoid down at the shifter. The two of them work together to prevent you from putting the VX into gear if the brake pedal isn't depressed.

Hope this helps.

[LeglizHemp]

i'll take a look at it this weekend. the dealer who replaced the engine then rebuilt the tranny likes to say things breaking are not his fault. that it is normal for other parts to fail after you work on something related. so is always an argument/battle to get things done.

thanks again for the info.

[CowboyErik]

From the time I got it, my tranny never ran right, shifting was sanding, slow, clunking, I thought this was simply the way VX was, my VX is my first truck/SUV; I servied the tranny multiple times; looked good, pans normal, no worse the what's Ive seen in my Nissan or buick tranny pans, cleaned it up, filled, cycled, filled and checked again, no leaks; what finished me off, was intercooler failure, after market part, spring a leak, I limied home a few miles, tranny light came on, drove low speed; 4L30E manual states there is a "limp home"feature, well, I did that; upone taking my tranny down, it's totally on the insided, shiims, pads, seaals, all totalled; there was a part of the case, where a large plunger or piston seated in to it, a fine fit, this shaft rotated and was also self sealing; a nasty grove was work into it; so I even had to get a replacement case; CLASS III/II hitching had ruined it by shop said. I called around shops, not saying I had an Isuzu, just that I had a General Motors 4L30E that needed rebuild; qouted $1200 to $1500; I was at $1500 cuase of all the extra parts and work that are not routinely totally wasted like they were in my case; I got a 12K/1year warranty; so far, so goot, shifts like Lexus, never did that before; millagage up about 2o percent; next tackling these rotton bumpers, bad O2 sensors; oil burning, ABS issues, serviing my axciles; maybe do a 3rd roller bearing repack; there cars were made to runforever at all; lots of short sites. rotted numper bars gotta to go, when I take off claddimg, I should be prour, not embarrased at whats under neither there; and my license plate lights, those need to be address; I have new lights, holders and OEM bracket to put in; shirts crazy, LOVE MY VX!! Did my brakes right, rotors are forever; checking pads soon; need to soften my ride, someone put super hard springs on my BV, they suck; ; need worn rear srpings to install; and I love my fogging headlight again, I've polished them 5 times, yellow haze always comes back; pealing center caps suck,cant get the logo's off them to get them down to chrome, bought a set of 4 new Rodeo rims, late model, great condition, hopefully they are same bolt configuration; new hood words, old one rusted out, still have it, trying to restore the bolts so I can put different logo on it and be able to swap; I could do on, but I'm tired, good nite! My VX is WARM and in his garage happy with plenty of insane tire shiine on his plastic cladding!

[bartmanS4]

English as a second language?

[VX KAT]

From the time I got it, my tranny never ran right, shifting was sanding, slow, clunking, I thought this was simply the way VX was, my VX is my first truck/SUV; I servied the tranny multiple times; looked good, pans normal, no worse the what's Ive seen in my Nissan or buick tranny pans, cleaned it up, filled, cycled, filled and checked again, no leaks; what finished me off, was intercooler failure, after market part, spring a leak, I limied home a few miles, tranny light came on, drove low speed; 4L30E manual states there is a "limp home"feature, well, I did that; upone taking my tranny down, it's totally on the insided, shiims, pads, seaals, all totalled; there was a part of the case, where a large plunger or piston seated in to it, a fine fit, this shaft rotated and was also self sealing; a nasty grove was work into it; so I even had to get a replacement case; CLASS III/II hitching had ruined it by shop said. I called around shops, not saying I had an Isuzu, just that I had a General Motors 4L30E that needed rebuild; qouted $1200 to $1500; I was at $1500 cuase of all the extra parts and work that are not routinely totally wasted like they were in my case; I got a 12K/1year warranty; so far, so goot, shifts like Lexus, never did that before; millagage up about 2o percent; next tackling these rotton bumpers, bad O2 sensors; oil burning, ABS issues, serviing my axciles; maybe do a 3rd roller bearing repack; there cars were made to runforever at all; lots of short sites. rotted numper bars gotta to go, when I take off claddimg, I should be prour, not embarrased at whats under neither there; and my license plate lights, those need to be address; I have new lights, holders and OEM bracket to put in; shirts crazy, LOVE MY VX!! Did my brakes right, rotors are forever; checking pads soon; need to soften my ride, someone put super hard springs on my BV, they suck; ; need worn rear srpings to install; and I love my fogging headlight again, I've polished them 5 times, yellow haze always comes back; pealing center caps suck,cant get the logo's off them to get them down to chrome, bought a set of 4 new Rodeo rims, late model, great condition, hopefully they are same bolt configuration; new hood words, old one rusted out, still have it, trying to restore the bolts so I can put different logo on it and be able to swap; I could do on, but I'm tired, good nite! My VX is WARM and in his garage happy with plenty of insane tire shiine on his plastic cladding!

English as a second language?

OK, now I'm going to post this since bartman did…
Is it just me and bartman or does everybody have a very hard time following this post, as well as many of the previous ones, trying to guess at words that are spelled wrong, and missing words?

In red highlight above, I'm pretty sure he omitted the word "NOT"…… that changes meaning completely..changes THREAD entirely since he previous said our tranny's were a huge weak spot, not really expected to go more than about 70k…:

and I'm still guessing at whether it's 2% or 20% increase in MPG…._thinking


I get it, it's probably from a phone or device, so it's fast and handy and harder to type, but man…I can't follow your stuff...