Well...it's starting to sound like a quorum for a Swarm on Sunday in Dutchess County , Hyde Park Vanderbilt Estate. I'd guess 2PM might be a convenient start time. They have a big paved lot out in the sun. But if there is a big tourist crowd they open up the shady grove just North of the paved lot under the trees. It's a simply beautiful place and very natural, like a big Central Park, kinda. Just fiollow the signs to parking we'll see each other, I'm sure. By the way they have a great mansion tour all afternoon. (Women love it, if that helps.) Hope to see ya there. "BZZZZZZZ"!