2005 Durango ABS Control Module Fits

[blacksambo]

This is a great thread.

[rsteinmetz70112]

Looking at online parts suppliers there appear to be 4 different ABS modules for the 2005 Dodge Durango 2wd, 2wd w/ traction control, 4wd, 4wd w/traction control. The part number listed above is 52113683AC and the label says 4x4. no mention of traction control. Checking further it appears this part number refers to the 4wd unit without traction control.

Although the same number is also supplied to the pump, perhaps dodge only sells them as a unit?

Someone should check with a Dodge Dealer to be sure

[xcelr8]

Looking at online parts suppliers there appear to be 4 different ABS modules for the 2005 Dodge Durango 2wd, 2wd w/ traction control, 4wd, 4wd w/traction control. The part number listed above is 52113683AC and the label says 4x4. no mention of traction control. Checking further it appears this part number refers to the 4wd unit without traction control.

Although the same number is also supplied to the pump, perhaps dodge only sells them as a unit?

Someone should check with a Dodge Dealer to be sure

WITHOUT traction control (at least that's what mine said in the desc.) I don't know if it's still there, but there was a new one on ebay for 249 WITH the pump. However, I did not check to see if it was without trac.

[tropicalmaria]

WITHOUT traction control (at least that's what mine said in the desc.) I don't know if it's still there, but there was a new one on ebay for 249 WITH the pump. However, I did not check to see if it was without trac.

Is the ABS still working with the dodge module ? and also Im seeing that the part number you purchased off Ebay , others are listing as WITH traction control ???

[VX KAT]

Is the ABS still working with the dodge module ? and also Im seeing that the part number you purchased off Ebay , others are listing as WITH traction control ???

Don't forget the rebuild option, $77, with life time warranty.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110784352777...84.m1438.l2649

[xcelr8]

Is the ABS still working with the dodge module ? and also Im seeing that the part number you purchased off Ebay , others are listing as WITH traction control ???

All's well and functioning perfectly. Kat's option is a great one too. It's probably good to note this unit was rebuilt by the seller. He offers the service as well.

The good thing about going my route is I didn't have to wait on rebuild. Unite was sent to me without exchange.

[RickOKC]

Although the same number is also supplied to the pump, perhaps dodge only sells them as a unit?

I called Dodge today. The guy I talked didn't seem to be very confident in his answers and he couldn't match the model number listed above in their system. (Maybe I got the new guy?!?!) He told me the rough price for a new unit is about $500 - or $600 if it is for the Durango with traction control. Again, he wasn't completely sure, but thought this was just for the control module only.

There are a few other dealers in the metro area... I'll make some more calls.

Hey, xcelr8 - what year is your VX? How did you get to the screws on the side closest to the fender?

[xcelr8]

I called Dodge today. The guy I talked didn't seem to be very confident in his answers and he couldn't match the model number listed above in their system. (Maybe I got the new guy?!?!) He told me the rough price for a new unit is about $500 - or $600 if it is for the Durango with traction control. Again, he wasn't completely sure, but thought this was just for the control module only.

There are a few other dealers in the metro area... I'll make some more calls.

Hey, xcelr8 - what year is your VX? How did you get to the screws on the side closest to the fender?

2000. Yeah, that was beyond insane. I loosened the bracket that holds the whole thing (three screws). I removed screw on each side of pump so that the whole aseembly could be mobilised. Then it was just tilting just so, pulling just so...you CAN move the whole assembly. The plumbing will not kink or break. I practically lifted it straight up above fender line.

Hope this helps.

[rsteinmetz70112]

I c the rough price for a new unit is about $500 - or $600 if it is for the Durango with traction control. Again, he wasn't completely sure, but thought this was just for the control module only.

There was a P in front of the number on the photo of the control unit. There are photos on eBay with the same part number on the pump.

It's a little weird.

It also leads me to wonder how many other 4 wheel vehicles use the same part.

[RickOKC]

2000. Yeah, that was beyond insane. I loosened the bracket that holds the whole thing (three screws). I removed screw on each side of pump so that the whole aseembly could be mobilised. Then it was just tilting just so, pulling just so...you CAN move the whole assembly. The plumbing will not kink or break. I practically lifted it straight up above fender line.

Hope this helps.

Oh yeah, that helps tremendously! Just looking at it, I was wondering if the pipes were flexible enough to move around carefully. I know what you're talking about regarding the three bolts for the bracket and the 2 bolts that secure the entire assembly to the bracket.

There was a P in front of the number on the photo of the control unit. There are photos on eBay with the same part number on the pump.

It's a little weird.

Yeah, VERY weird. I told the (maybe newbie) parts guy the part number might-or-might-not start with "P" because I noticed the same thing. Also I think the last digits could have been either "C" or "AC" according to the eBay ad. He didn't find nuthin'.

It also leads me to wonder how many other 4 wheel vehicles use the same part.

When I talked to my bro-in-law last night he didn't seem very surprised about the cross-over. He was probably exaggerating, but said there are "only 5 or 6 brains floating around out there." (Hmmm, or did he say "manufacturers"?) I'll see if he can clarify if variety is surprisingly low.

[nfpgasmask]

Wow, ok, this is cool.

So, this is a definite FIX for the ABS light in the dash coming on and staying on?

Hmmm, I need to do some work on my VX soon.

Bart

[VX KAT]

Anybody know if the VX will run normally if the ABS module is completely removed, to send i to the rebuild guy, other than the ABS light being on?

[rsteinmetz70112]

Since the problem is pretty well known and this unit is obviously newer, I would hope Bosch has taken steps to correct the problem.

Checking the Durango it seems to be an odd fit in terms of size for the VX, the curb weight of a Duranago is just over 5,000 lbs for the 4.7L 4WD Durango vs just under 4,000 for the VX.

I wonder if the programming is the same or nearly the same?

Can the units be reprogrammed?

[Leon R]

That is a very good find!

But a skeptic in me finds it pretty amazing that this Durango controller is fully compatible electrically! Let me ask you this:

- Have you tried hard stops what would normally activate ABS?
- I suspect that TOD is using ABS sensors to detect wheel spin, have you done any driving that would normally activate TOD?

Finally, here is what I want to hear next: Durango Hemi engine bolts right up to the VX tranny bell housing

[xcelr8]

That is a very good find!

But a skeptic in me finds it pretty amazing that this Durango controller is fully compatible electrically! Let me ask you this:

- Have you tried hard stops what would normally activate ABS?
Yes. Seems fine...but maybe someone else with more mechanical know-how would disagree.

- I suspect that TOD is using ABS sensors to detect wheel spin, have you done any driving that would normally activate TOD?

Yes.

Finally, here is what I want to hear next: Durango Hemi engine bolts right up to the VX tranny bell housing

not gonna happen. The engine's not a real hemi anyway. Just get the caddy engine.