RADO's Off Road Rig- Build Thread

[VXorado]

After a long debate with myself, I decided to go with ORI Struts vs coil-overs. I stumbled across these while researching coil-over towers and something about them just cried out "buy me." Of course I did a good amount of research on them first; after all I've only heard bad things about air shocks. Seems like 90% of everyone who owns ORI struts swears by them.

Pros:
Fully and easily tunable, height adjustable
Internal hydraulic bump stops- no need for external bump stops and limiting straps
Very stable- no sway bar needed
No unloading

Cons:
No physical spring holding up the vehicle
Noticeable shock fade for high speed racing

They're a lot more complex than air shocks. They use opposing nitrogen reservoirs that split the task of damping and lift. Because of the separate sections, they're very stable & eliminate unloading. They’re very adjustable too and allow you to change everything in a matter of minutes. To adjust them, I needed to buy a nitrogen tank & regulator which added to the cost. They’re also more expensive than coil-overs but the cost evens by not needing bump stops, limit straps or a swaybar.

We’ll see, I hope they work out well for my setup.

[bartmanS4]

^^^^
These are even sexier in person! And remember the camera adds 20 lbs.

[jmayer40]

For those prices, they should include free tee shirts. Which is all I can afford.. sweet struts!!

[ZEUS]

Those are what Beau (Ascinder) & I have discussed as well. They look very promising! I decided against them tho... for now... I hope I get a chance to feel what they ride like in Moab.. hint hint.

[VXorado]

Yep, those struts we're expensive enough... they'd better work well!


I think the test drive is happening today. I had to work late last night and wasn't able to finish everything. Got the brakes bled last night and now I just need to swap bolts on the shocks, charge up the shocks, take a drive and snap some pics.

I'm nervously excited!

[Triathlete]

Let's see some poser flex shots!

[ZEUS]

You're killin me, Smalls...

[VXorado]

Yep, it's been a busy week. I did take the VX for a short test drive and had a bad wobble. Since then, it's been back to work in the garage and I am waiting to snap pics until I'm really finished with everything.

As for the wobble- I had ignored a couple things with the axle hoping I could get away with not replacing. I was using old tierods, ball joints and hadn't checked the bearings. This last weekend I went through everything and replaced all joints with Moog & one outer bearing. Hopefully the issue is fixed since everything now is brand new and tight.

Additionally, my axle is 5x5.5 and I had talked myself into spacers that convert the pattern to 6x5.5. The spacers were 2" wide which we're putting extra stress on the hubs. They also made the front tires stick out a bit too far. Now I have a matching set of rims in the 5x5.5 pattern on the way. Not ideal to have different patterns but better than using the spacers. I can switch out the hubs someday for 6x5.5 but it's a bit of a challenge finding the right parts.

I still need to come up with a driveshaft & lift the rear... and the VX goes in for gears on Wednesday... and hopefully the wobble will be resolved... then 300 Miles to Moab!

Anymore hiccups and I'll be driving a crossover to Moab.

[ZEUS]

Oh man, that is a lot to tackle before the maiden voyage! Wishing you luck!

[VXorado]

Well, it's obvious now that I didn't quite make my Nov 8th deadline. Technically though, it was slightly driveable before the deadline but too many small details needed to be done and I didn't want to take a 300 mile test drive. Moab was still fun and did some wheeling in a 14' Rubicon.

Since returning home, it's been stupid cold. We left Moab with 60 degree temps and returned to Denver with 3 degree temps. I spent a full week without even stepping into the garage to look at the VX.

Things on the front axle i'm still working on...

• Alignment- I'm adjusting the camber as it's about 1-1/2* positive both sides.
• Add a few gussets.
• Paint- I need to pull everything out and paint it when the temps are above 50 degrees.

After I finish the list, the build isn't complete but at least the front axle "phase" should be finished.

I'll post some updated pics this weekend.

[ZEUS]

[VXorado]

It seems almost impossible to get any good pictures out of my garage recently. It's been dark when I've had the opportunity to take pictures and the flash reflects on the unpainted metal. Regardless, I managed to snap some shots and add HDR effect to clear up the pictures.



Balljoints, Tie-rods, Camber shims

After the first test drive, I quickly found that the ball joints and tie rods needed replacing. Took an entire weekend to replace everything but I did learn a whole lot about working on the front axle.



Then, when I drove the VX to the shop for gears, everything felt tight BUT, I could barley keep the VX on the road. I'm surprised I wasn't pulled over for drunk driving. I soon realized the positive camber was most likely the cause and required purchasing shims. They're fully adjustable positive or negative camber 1/8th* -1-1/2.*



I may need an alignment shop to dial everything in perfectly but I'm hoping this adjustment fixes most of the wander.

...and once again, sorry for the picture quality!

Pulled the knuckle for ball joint replacement





Installing the camber shim





Camber shim installed













Airing up the ORI struts

These things are pretty cool! They have two Schrader valves on the top and bottom of the strut. The bottom valve controls the shock stiffness & damping. The top valve controls ride height.



Need a little more lift? Just...





Attach Nitrogen regulator hose to top Schrader valve







Open regulator





Measure change in strut shaft, remove air hose, repeat for other side.





Track Bar, Steering

The track bar was difficult to fit but with a little brain storming, I found the room. I’ll get more close-ups of the mounts & brackets after they’re cleaned up and painted.















Tire Placement

The axle/tire ended up 2" forward over stock. This position was dictated by the oil pan & pitman arm and the axle fits snugly between the two.







Width

My front wheel pattern is 5x5.5. This can be converted to 6x5.5 with a swap of the knuckle. For now, I found a cheap set of matching wheels in 5x5.5. The offset is -6 and my rears are +6. Which matching offsets, the tires will almost have identical widths. --front should be slightly wider for tracking.









Here's a quick shot I took of the VX yesterday before it got dark. Just starting ZU makes me miss driving it! Unfortunately, I'm not quite ready to hit the road again. Obviously it also needs a wash with the nice layer of metal cutting dust covering the entire exterior.

[VXorado]

On a side note... I just found these pics on an old camera I used during the 2010 Moab trip. I remember I forgot my memory card and was limited to about 20 pics on the internal memory. I replaced the batteries in the camera last weekend in an attempt to get better quality pics in the dark garage and I found these hidden gems! Doesn't look like the same Vehicross!



THE WALL on Steel Be... uh I mean Hello Kitty Canyon!

[ZEUS]

You can't hear it but I am cat-calling your VX right now!
it now must feel even more

Really nice job with the drag link & track bar symmetry!
I'm so glad it is not another

So what are you planning to do to even out the ride height?

[VXorado]

I think I'll try out these Coil Springs



They're around 200 lb/in and should be somewhat comparable to the 919s I'm currently running. I'm planning to cut the coil springs down to the height and use the 2" poly spacer to help seat the coil to the frame.

I've also ordered material to build all 3 rear controls arms. Not only are mine bent, but I will need to adjust the rear pinion angle after the extra lift.

...That's about it for now. I currently have the front axle pulled for paint.