scared meself!!!

[Scott Larson]

Does kinda sum up the whole mental-tality doesn't it?

[JoFotoz]

Hi trekker...Whore jockey here.... !


There's been more than a few times that I've been told....STFU Jo..!
..
...and rightly so

And I think I've figured out that when some of the people you are 'discussing' stuff with...
.... tell you yer WAY out of line..
...its usually a good idea to sit back and take a good look at YOUR position.
.
Perhaps...maybe...its YOU..............maybe youre the one that is out of line.

Not necessarily ...but certainly a good time to sit back and take stock.

~~~~~

BUT..when most/ and ( very tellingly) some new to commenting ( not the usual suspects!) of the community...
.... tell you the very same thing....


......it might just be time to get a clue.

~~

The inter-web is very impersonal ...and that can be a problem.
Intonation, expression, and tone is lost..unless you know the poster personally.

(Most posting on this thread DO know each other personally...but you dont.)

I've said that about the web before, and allowed for that with you before.
.

But.... when the consensus of opinion is telling you, you are wrong...

..... it might behoove you to consider it , and think about it.


I know I have in the past.....

.....hope my experience/bit of insight... is of help to you.

Jo

[Y33TREKker]

Rather than reply to all of you individually...who I might add are once again illustrating that mob mentality I mentioned earlier...I'll just use Toms' responses to once again illustrate how it's some of you usual suspects who are ONCE AGAIN conveniently directing your "attitude" against the wrong person.

AFAIK the only thing I posted that was an attack on your person was calling you ... that bad name you don't like. That was an accident borne of ignorance & I apologized for it.

All I ever did was to continue the conversation on a technical basis to see if there was any more to learn from your responses ... despite the effort of weeding through your false accusations of contradiction.

An accident borne of ignorance with nothing else to it huh? Well I'll simply have to take that as your word Tom.

"AFAIK" was at least a good start anyway. You lost it again after that though. As Far As You Knew, you weren't contradicting yourself with what you were saying about the PCV system, even though it was obvious to others that you were. Or do you not remember that Scott corrected you too? But even then, you STILL persisted in your contradictions, and in the process, with your personal jabs against me (and me alone I might ALSO add)...even though you just said that "all you did was continue the conversation on a technical basis". Guess we'll just add that one to the list of contradictions you've apparently never exhibited as far as you know.

Something you've without a doubt illustrated though is a habit of apologizing while simultaneously insulting. Is that really how you think a truce is achieved?

I have no interest in getting into a battle of wits with you. Please don't go back through the thread and quote me out of context to attempt to prove your point.

Out of context? You mean in the same way you've done with some of my comments in this thread? I've said it before, it's called projection. Look it up.

Yes, I know I've waived the white flag twice now so please try to honor that by just letting it go (a flag of truce is bi-directional after all). Any further unfounded attacks on my character will be wasted effort on your part since I won't be reading this thread anymore.

Now the picture has become even more clear. Apparently, if you're involved, it's only an "honorable" truce in your view if you have the last word...which also always happens to include one last unfounded parting shot against MY character.

I must say that's a very convenient sense of honor you've concocted for yourself Tom.

It seems the solution is clear at this point though. Since Tom doesn't plan to listen to anything more I have to say in this thread, and since there are so many of you siding with him, it's obvious that all of you who are now ALSO taking unfounded personal shots at my character should all simply redirect your efforts towards providing input for Tom's crossover tube project.

He obviously thinks he's on to something with his theory, and since so many of you have apparently been agreeing with it since hardly any of you have even mentioned it in any of your posts, you obviously agree with it so that would obviously be a more productive avenue for your efforts.

After all, I've said all along I've only been trying to help Tom regarding his project, and surely that's all that the rest of you could say regarding YOUR comments in this thread too. Surely none of you would have reason to disagree with me about that...would you?

[JoFotoz]

I guess I cant fathom why....

...that given you keep finding yourself embroiled in similar fracas on this site,
that you dont sit back and take a good look at why the consensus of opinion....
(mob mentality as you so colorfully put it!)

.... is telling you, that youre the one that is out of line.





Jo

[Ldub]

I guess I cant fathom why....

...that given you keep finding yourself embroiled in similar fracas on this site,
that you dont sit back and take a good look at why the consensus of opinion....
(mob mentality as you so colorfully put it!)

.... is telling you, that youre the one that is out of line.





Jo

Dude...it's called "PROJECTION"...look it up mo-fo...

He's projecting a false sense of intelligence, superiority, & the ever popular "I'm never wrong & the last word will be MINE"

Doncha remember how we were all projecting up a storm earlier in this thread...sheesh....

[Ldub]

Rather than reply to all of you individually...who I might add are once again illustrating that mob mentality I mentioned earlier...I'll just use Toms' responses to once again illustrate how it's some of you usual suspects who are ONCE AGAIN conveniently directing your "attitude" against the wrong person.


An accident borne of ignorance with nothing else to it huh? Well I'll simply have to take that as your word Tom.

"AFAIK" was at least a good start anyway. You lost it again after that though. As Far As You Knew, you weren't contradicting yourself with what you were saying about the PCV system, even though it was obvious to others that you were. Or do you not remember that Scott corrected you too? But even then, you STILL persisted in your contradictions, and in the process, with your personal jabs against me (and me alone I might ALSO add)...even though you just said that "all you did was continue the conversation on a technical basis". Guess we'll just add that one to the list of contradictions you've apparently never exhibited as far as you know.

Something you've without a doubt illustrated though is a habit of apologizing while simultaneously insulting. Is that really how you think a truce is achieved?


Out of context? You mean in the same way you've done with some of my comments in this thread? I've said it before, it's called projection. Look it up.


Now the picture has become even more clear. Apparently, if you're involved, it's only an "honorable" truce in your view if you have the last word...which also always happens to include one last unfounded parting shot against MY character.

I must say that's a very convenient sense of honor you've concocted for yourself Tom.

It seems the solution is clear at this point though. Since Tom doesn't plan to listen to anything more I have to say in this thread, and since there are so many of you siding with him, it's obvious that all of you who are now ALSO taking unfounded personal shots at my character should all simply redirect your efforts towards providing input for Tom's crossover tube project.

He obviously thinks he's on to something with his theory, and since so many of you have apparently been agreeing with it since hardly any of you have even mentioned it in any of your posts, you obviously agree with it so that would obviously be a more productive avenue for your efforts.

After all, I've said all along I've only been trying to help Tom regarding his project, and surely that's all that the rest of you could say regarding YOUR comments in this thread too. Surely none of you would have reason to disagree with me about that...would you?

all that is simply your opinion...enjoy...

[Scott Harness]

WOW! excellent thread...almost missed it.I didn't know leaving your oil cap off was so emotional I'll have to try it.(actually did once,but didn't drive to far,so no mess)

[Y33TREKker]

Just another observation, but I couldn't help notice the irony about those comments suggesting I'm the person who needs to pause to reflect on my attitude, because they're all coming from the VERY SAME people who were exhibiting the EXACT SAME attitude in the thread from SO LONG AGO where all this animosity actually started......making it obvious that none of you blaming me have ever apparently even considered, let alone taken any time to pause and reflect...on the possibility that it might be YOUR attitudes that create an unfriendly atmosphere here.

Seems a PCV (Particularly Conveniently View) that some of you to have adopted.

Just because a lot of individuals will join in on what a mob is doing doesn't make what it's doing a good thing.

[JoFotoz]

Trekker, do you actually READ whats written????

In Part I wrote:-

Hi trekker...Whore jockey here.... !


There's been more than a few times that I've been told....STFU Jo..!
..
...and rightly so

And I think I've figured out that when some of the people you are 'discussing' stuff with...
.... tell you yer WAY out of line..
...its usually a good idea to sit back and take a good look at YOUR position.
.
Perhaps...maybe...its YOU..............maybe youre the one that is out of line.

Not necessarily ...but certainly a good time to sit back and take stock.

But.... when the consensus of opinion is telling you, you are wrong...

..... it might behoove you to consider it , and think about it.


I know I have in the past.....

.....hope my experience/bit of insight... is of help to you.

Jo

And you reply...

.making it obvious that none of you blaming me have ever apparently even considered, let alone taken any time to pause and reflect...on the possibility that it might be YOUR attitudes that create an unfriendly atmosphere here.

GOOG GRIEF!!!!!.... could I acknowledge more clearly that I have done so???


This wholly inaccurate summation of yours is just another perfect example of your complete and utter myopia ....


Get a grip Dude


jo

[Scott Larson]

Just another observation, but I couldn't help notice the irony about those comments suggesting I'm the person who needs to pause to reflect on my attitude, because they're all coming from the VERY SAME people who were exhibiting the EXACT SAME attitude in the thread from SO LONG AGO where all this animosity actually started......making it obvious that none of you blaming me have ever apparently even considered, let alone taken any time to pause and reflect...on the possibility that it might be YOUR attitudes that create an unfriendly atmosphere here.

Seems a PCV (Particularly Conveniently View) that some of you to have adopted.

Just because a lot of individuals will join in on what a mob is doing doesn't make what it's doing a good thing.

Do tell Trekkmiester, exactly what thread from sooooo long ago are you referring to, hmmmmmm? Please tell me it's not the same one I'm thinking of...