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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNoJWW8jTOs#t=85
wow looks really cool - still rather have a nissan gt-r
also, i saw one of the brand new corvette stingrays the other day - yellow and black - looked friggin awesome - best looking vet since the old shark style stingrays in my opinion
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I like the GT-R, as well, but they don't offer it in a manual, so :-\ As a big fan of the MKIV, I, along with a bunch of others, hope that Toyota uses this car to resurrect the Supra.
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GT-R is using an automated manual (different from automatic), which is pretty bad$ss!!! AWD > RWD, but I do like Toyota's stying a bit more...
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It's a DCT. You don't *have* to shift gears. To me, that's an automatic.Originally Posted by Leon R
And yes, AWD > RWD, but not all the time.
Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yBMvF05M8c
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AWD ROCKS!! The Toyota is a looker though!
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ive read that the gt-r has a manual trans mode, but i dont think there is a clutch pedal
ive only seen one in person and the windows were tinted so dark i couldnt see in
i wonder if this is toyotas way of making up for its losses with the LFA - awesome car but they supposidly spent so much on research and development that they lost money even with a $300k+ pricetag - i could see these supras selling very good if they can keep the cost under control
ill prob never have either, but its fun dreaming
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Barrett-Jackson going on now...my boss is there to add to his collection...
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barrett jackson is OUT OF CONTROL - one of the biggest reasons old/rare cars are so unaffordable now by the everyday joe - they have made the prices skyrocket
that being said...i wish i was there lol
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There is no clutch pedal in automated manual trannies. I am a HUGE manual tranny fan, but those trannies are better...
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I'm sure they are better,but...Flicking your finger just doesn't feel the same as mashing that pedal to the floor and throwing that shifter around! Not to mention fanning the clutch lol
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Drove a GTR at the race track this summer and it scared the crap out of me, compared to the Lamborghini that I drove earlier in the day. The guy in the passenger seat of the GTR just kept telling me to go faster and not brake going into the corner because the tires would hold the speed. I kept chickening out and hitting the brakes because the cement wall between the front straight and the pit road kept saying that the tires were not going to hold the speed. It was set in auto mode and I had all I could do just to try and go fast. I felt so much more comfortable in the lambo which was also set up in auto mode.
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"Better" is a subjective term. If you want to keep a car @ stock power levels, yes. If you want to increase them, a DCT requires an upgrade/rebuild. A manual simply requires a different clutch.
High hp MKIVs. The 6MTs require nothing but a clutch. The auto couldn't hold the power, so they are switched to.....Powerglides.
E92 BMW M3. A guy on my forum has a DCT that his 773hp engine is killing. He tried custom carbon fiber clutch packs ($10k), but they stick, so he's back to his stock clutch packs that he has to replace with a higher frequency.
Since I don't keep anything stock, for me, a DCT isn't a better tranny....not by a long shot.
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I am familiar with GTR and EVOX versions, both of those are better...
I suspect that Toyota will be closer to the GTR than to the BMW...
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As I said, "better" is a subjective term.
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Well, if you are simply after the "experience" of manual transmission, then no automated manual transmission will do. But for performance driving these transmissions are the ultimate when it comes to switching gears!
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