Hchen,

People do bad things, religion doesn`t.
Religion teaches basic ways of living and basic principals, people take those out of context and use them for their own benefit.
There are no perfect people, not perfect christians(hitler was christian), no perfect buddhists(pol pot was buddhist), no perfect hinduists(the caste system is still kept in india), no perfect moslim(Osama) and no perfect atheist(idi amin). etc.

People have the tendency to use religion to explain their own desires and deeds, and use it as a slogan....... "it`s allah`s will",
and "god bless America", are beautiful true words...but become oh so dirty when they are used by people with their own agenda.

Religion is a great thing, as long as you never forget that religion lives for you and not you for religion!
As for the discussion on this board, great, why do we have to limit ourselves to VX discussions? We`re all old enough to have good descent discussion.
And what`s on my christmas list..nothing we celebrate Saint Nicolas on the 5th of December in Holland