#### Moab 'zu Zoo Xvi / Vehicross Meet 2015####

[ZEUS]

Sounds like a plan, Jo! Eli and I will be packing our RC crawlers. A fun little trail & goof off spot is the washout on the way to BFE. It is part of the Britney Spears trail. That's where I'm thinking of going Saturday. We can hit some random obstacles & have a Pocco & Whore photo-shoot! Haha

[JoFotoz]

Excellent...

& have a Pocco & Whore photo-shoot! Haha

Will you be fluffer

Jo

[ZEUS]

http://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/20...ant-hill-roads

Because of this, this year may be a good time to return to Elephant Hill before the option to do it as a large group is lost. Not sure when the permit proposal would come into effect... hopefully not before we get down there next month.

Thoughts? Remember, dogs are not allowed in the back country where this trail goes...

[MSHardeman]

http://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/20...ant-hill-roads

Because of this, this year may be a good time to return to Elephant Hill before the option to do it as a large group is lost. Not sure when the permit proposal would come into effect... hopefully not before we get down there next month.

Thoughts? Remember, dogs are not allowed in the back country where this trail goes...

I'd be up for an Elephant Hill run. We did this as the VX Only run a few years ago with Todd Adams and I don't really remember much about the trail, but it looks fun.

http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=65

I do remember it being a loooong day due to how far out of town it is.

[Jay Dunford]

I'd be up for an Elephant Hill run. We did this as the VX Only run a few years ago with Todd Adams and I don't really remember much about the trail, but it looks fun.

http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=65

I do remember it being a loooong day due to how far out of town it is.

I'd be down for that as well. Always has been one of my favorites. It is a long day, especially with a larger group.

[ahdoman]

I'm really hoping to make it to Moab. Unfortunately I won't know until the first part of May if I can make it. But, for a first timer like me what would be the best days to be there with the best option for making the drive worth while. Also, is there anybody beside Jo driving from SoCal?

[JoFotoz]

In my opinion...

But, for a first timer like me what would be the best days to be there with the best option for making the drive worth while.

Best days for a first timer are Tuesday/Wed/Thurs & Fri

Many people roll in Sun & Monday... then leave following Sat/Sun.

Traditionally Tues has been the VX only run..
..but the increasing numbers made that a really long drawn out affair!

Last year IIRC we split into smaller groups..with several of us leading new "Moab'ers" on various trails..
..from real ( stock ) easy.. to more adventurous.

.......

I'll be heading out from San Diego on Friday 8th.. do about 700 miles..
..then stop for the night.
That leaves an easy run into Moab the next day for a noon-ish arrival.
If you can swing it.. lets convoy ... but be aware, I'll be dragging a trailer..hopefully!

Cheers

Jo

[bartmanS4]

... but be aware, I'll be dragging a trailer..hopefully!

Cheers

Jo

Sweet!

[ZEUS]

I won't be wheeling until Thursday & I have the dog so if Elephant Hill fits best on an earlier day, go for it!

[BigSwede]

The plan is to arrive Saturday. But a few of us might head out again Sunday for a wilderness overnighter, back Monday.

[JoFotoz]

Cool..

See ya Saturday Steve.....all being well

Jo

[MSHardeman]

Not to harp on Elephant Hill, but I've been doing some research because I remember it being WAY out there. This doesn't need to be the VX Noob run, and we could really go any day, but we'll probably have to go early. To get to the trail head you have to drive 40 miles out of town, take a right then drive another 34 miles to the entrance station. After paying the day use fee you drive another 3 miles to the trail head and then the trail is 22 miles long if you go all the way out to the Colorado/ Green River confluence overlook. The guide book says it will take 5 to 6 hours to complete the trail alone. That's a 175 mile day and who knows how many hours.

Don't get me wrong. I'm totally up for an Elephant Hill run. It's incredibly beautiful out there and I think everyone would have a good time. Just wanted everyone to know what they were in for.

Getting excited for Moab!!

[VX KAT]

I'd love to do Elephant Hill, always heard so much about it and how beautiful! Thanks Mark for outlining the details so I can plan for it. We'll be in the FJ....any problems with the longer wheelbase? Jay?

[Jay Dunford]

I'd love to do Elephant Hill, always heard so much about it and how beautiful! Thanks Mark for outlining the details so I can plan for it. We'll be in the FJ....any problems with the longer wheelbase? Jay?

FJ is a long wheelbase? I wouldn't try it in the Raptor, but you will be just fine in the FJ. Like Billy said there are two turns that require a multi-point turn or on one of them you can back up to the next switchback and then continue.

[Triathlete]

Kat, no issues with long wheelbase...there is a turn that will require you to back down to the next turn (normal way to do it) but that is about it.
It is much better to keep the group at about 5-6 vehicles (maybe do a couple groups on different days if more want to do it) so you can make good time and still enjoy everything. When Swede led us through there I think the whole trip took about 9-10 hours (from memory)...that included lunch with some climbing around at the Devils Kitchen, the side trip and hike to the confluence overlook and hiking through the cracks.
It is a beautiful trail and worth the long day!