GM Recall - Mid-size SUVs

[Joe_Black]

Hey Tone, the Florida RallyCross Director is John Schellenberg who you made quite an impression with. He said to pass along a "Hello!" and jog your memory with the red Sentra he ran. You should see the course we've got in Fort Meade! I'll be sure to post plenty of pics after the first event and hopefully get some good video too. I'm sure I'll be seriously looking at uprated brakes/pads/lines soon!

[Tone]

Tell John hi back - great guy! Houston had a very fast course, something I really enjoyed and looked forward to and have not been able to find since. good luck and send/post lots of pics!

[Chopper]

Subie,Scooby,Sooby...any way you cut it, great car.Check out the wagon version---really. Sneak up on all those ol' v8 an' Germanic types...for a couple 300 yds. anyway. Who cares about the rest??Bring that M on down to the shell and sand roads here---We'll see who eats who's lunch.

[MrCrowley]

The evo sti thing has been beaten to death, but here it goes again here. Mitsubishi wasted ALOT of money on the fasterer and furiouserer (kinda like dumb & dumberer LOL) and 3 out of 4 magazine reviews couldnt even get an evo 8 under 5 seconds 0-60. I aso have yet to see an unbiased review. 5 speed vs 6 speed, bigger engine, 3 diffs, bigger brakes, i could go on and on. Plus the fact that if it was so great, Mitsubishi wouldnt be getting smoked by everyone in WRC- including Ford!!!!! I have seen an evo 7 ( better than the 8)and 8 run a tight rally course and I am not impressed to say the least. I know the VX would have beat them easy because they are small displacement, and straights were so short they never got into boost. I ran the VX after the event on the course and I bet I could have been among the top 3. I showed up late because I was working at a Subaru dealership (only available job at the time before NASA decided they needed some help after Columbia). I was told that no SUV was allowed to run EXCEPT the Vehicross. I was amazed. I proceeded to take the safety dude for 3 laps after everyone left. He said at one point "wow you are pretty aggressive" and never said another word about the run. I even amazed myself. I told him that my ride to work through streams and dirt roads was more of a challenge than a track set up in a rough dirt parking lot. he laughed.The reason the STI is better is more displacement = more low end torque. The fact that the mitsu is a 13 year old engine AND it is running on the extreme limit of boosting it till it blows (19 psi) and the fact they have several clutch and tranny issues- it shows that the evo is nothing more than a hyped up Mirage. LOL Whereas the STI has mondo differences with all its beef- not just the engine. At least 5 guys on an STI website have "upgraded" from evos to STI's and say its the best thing they could have done. I would never personally trust Mitsubishi quality anyways. Hasnt anyone wondered what has happened to all the Eclipses of the late '90's? I havent seen one in eons. There is a reason for this. Fred Sanford has most of them by now.

Yeah the STI is ugly, but in a way the VX and STI just seem right to own! STI's and VX's Mitsubishis





And I do believe that the infamous Tone driving against a rex with anything less than a somewhat experienced rally driver with better than stock tires would be lunch!


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[Heraclid]

First, more GM troubles...

http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/gm11_20040211.htm

My brother had a 94 or 95 (forgot which, but the body style before the current one) Eclipse GS-T, and it was pretty nice. It was a turbo with 215 or 220 under the hood. It shared much of its interior (identical dash but different radio controls) with the Dodge Avenger (I had an ES), which was built with the Eclipse at the same plant. The ES was the Avenger with a V6, and it was a Mitsubishi engine (4cyl was a Chrysler powerplant). In fact Avenger was pretty much all Mitsu under the sheet metal. Main problem with the Eclipses seems to be electrical (windows, door locks in particular), which my brother experienced. But I really have no complaint about either car. The Avenger was less powerful, heavier, had a longer wheelbase but they out-slalom Eclipse GS-T's on the track. My bro's was bought by a guy down the street from my parents' house and we still see it go by. It was also low miles though because once he went to UF for college it wasn't driven much. Only thing with Avenger was it had a ball joint seal issue that could lead to premature wear and separation- I had it checked twice, both times they said it was fine (like hell they actually looked), then my wheel came off at 45mph. Fun stuff.

[MZ-N10]

i totally agree the sti should beat the evo...just by the numbers...i was plannin to get a sti at first so im not bias against the sti...

the japanese version of the sti still uses the ej20 which has been the same engine for all the wrxs and stis...its just the us version gets teh legacy turbo engine which is has the same top end and bottom as the ej20 which is also 10 or so years old...

the evo lost most of the wrc because they made their cars waaaaaaay too heavy...tat thing was fast in the gravel but tat was about it... im not much of a wrc fan so i might be wrong...
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