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    sorry for long post...

    Originally posted by Heraclid
    Well I don't think the Europeans are all that, and it isn't just about horsepower. They drive around in little tin cans, which isn't too bright considering HOW they drive. At the Arc d'Triumph in Paris there are about 8 streets converging right there, and no traffic lights. Gets interesting. But anyway...
    well... Heraclid, the horsepower doesn't matter there, really. It's how hard you can push it. They have "no rules" on a road. I myself seen my daddy - mind it, in Poland - on two way road in a country, that was so curved there was no way to see what's coming ahead of you, passing "on third" and laughing at me when I started screaming. They mostly have no roads for big rigs, and that's the reason for little cute, but evil cars. I do not see Kia or it's evil twin on U.S. roads - it would be eaten, but you know that...

    It's just different style of driving. What amazes me here is a misconception both sides, Europe and U.S. have about themselves.
    U.S. gets slammed for big wheelers, horsepower and highways, Europe envy us for.
    Europe get hit for "love" of small peppy cars, that unfortunately ask for this kind of advertisement. Why? Because competition in compact cars is so severe in Europe, that right now it's not what under the hood, it's how cool they can "make it look." Literally or not. And the "evil-twin" advertisement hits the nail.
    Is it ethical? That's topic for different discussion...

    One more thing, it's not just the geometry of cities in Europe that make it so difficult to drive anything bigger that a box of matches. In your trip to Paris, have you managed to go outside of the city and looked at country roads? Well, I admit, I haven't been to France, but other countries I visited have one thing in common. Most of the roads are very tight and curvy. Most of them also have deep ditches on both sides, and if it's possible trees that make it impossible to see anything from the air. It's all legacy of the two wars that ravaged Europe so severely. It's harder to spot and hit army that is not on a straight road, has deep ditch to hide in in case of attack, and for sure is very hardly seen from above. They still remember, they do not want to change it yet. But they will. They just need time for that. So for now they will drive "tin cans", and go crazy with them, because days of "Driving Miss Daisy" are over. Even for Europe.


    Heck, in Paris you can turn on the TV in primetime on a non-pay-per-view channel and see someone giving it to someone else, and they zoom in real close and you can see EVERYTHING - it sure isn't that fake Cinemax sex. I'll say this - it oughta a helluva lot less offensive to see two people making love than killing each other if you ask me, but which one do most people flip out over? Sex is something a lot of people cheapen and I think that is a sad state of affairs, but I also don't see what the big friggin' deal is sometimes. Nudity is just not a big deal in some countries and some times I think that just maybe that would create less problems rather than more.

    P.S.- We need an evil VX clip.
    Nudity and sex on TV... you see, it seems everyone has their field they are good at. If you look at U.S. productions and European productions, and compare the two, you'll see that this side of the Ocean is just better in portraying violence, and they are just better in erotism. It all comes form - IMHO - they way we all are brought up, not just what mama says, but years of history we all have behind us.
    Here Janet's naked nipple had whole country buzz like a nest of disturbed bees. Why is that? Everyone has seen naked nipple, no one wants to talk about though... Why?
    In Europe erotism has to be something natural, that comes with time, and that's why there is less kids having kids.
    Let me tell you, both sides have their own identity, way of handling things, raising their kids, driving their cars, being themselves. There is no better or worst. I come from one side, and live on the other. I see no better way here or there. I admire both sides. I admire Europe for being open to sex subject, and admire U.S. for being able to make "Aliens" the way they made it.
    Yet even for me, it seems the two do not mix, like "Matrix Reloaded"...
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    Re: sorry for long post...

    Originally posted by yal^
    Yet even for me, it seems the two do not mix, like "Matrix Reloaded"...
    That's funny.

    NOBODY went to see Matrix Reloaded wanting to see KEANU's *****!!!!!

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    Thumbs up

    Liked the Bird ad, wish our VX would do that to the birds around here. However the cat ad goes a step or two past bad taste.
    Aloha

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    Dihydrogen-Monoxide:
    http://www.thesunlink.com/redesign/2...l/439573.shtml
    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...939847851.html


    Meanwhile the reason eurocars are tiny little underpowered things compared to american cars is twofold:

    1) Most countries tax car ownership based on engine displacement and number of cylinders. So, the smaller the displacement and less the number of cylinders, the less tax charged. This also explains the prevelance of turbocharged cars over there - very high HP/displacement ratio.

    2) European gasoline prices are less subsidized than american gas prices. So, when faced with paying closer to the true cost of gasoline, the market naturally moves towards more fuel-efficient vehicles.

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    Thumbs down

    I'd say leave the kids out of this, they shouldn't be watching TV anyway those little buggers! Instead they should be outside, cleaning dad's car.


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    Worlds apart...

    Originally posted by WyrreJ

    Meanwhile the reason eurocars are tiny little underpowered things compared to american cars is twofold:

    1) Most countries tax car ownership based on engine displacement and number of cylinders. So, the smaller the displacement and less the number of cylinders, the less tax charged. This also explains the prevelance of turbocharged cars over there - very high HP/displacement ratio.

    2) European gasoline prices are less subsidized than american gas prices. So, when faced with paying closer to the true cost of gasoline, the market naturally moves towards more fuel-efficient vehicles.
    Two excellent points!! I was even SHOCKED to hear that there is a "TV" tax in England. Taxing the number of TVs a household has.

    Can anyone from England clarify this one?
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    WyrreJ, I knew that gas prices and taxes would come up sooner or later after my post. Yes, I overlooked it completely - it was late, I was tired, I wasn’t thinking that way.
    My response was mostly regarding European driving style. It seems Chicago downtown in a rush time appears to be really peacefull place comparing to those crazy intersections in Europe.

    Anyway, it all comes down to one thing: different conditions altogheter.

    When it comes to gasoline prices Europeans have it already worked out with second power supply for cars. In Poland my friends already use gas - I think nitro, but might be mistaken - as alternative for their cars. And I do not mean NOS.
    Besides that we have to remember that Diesel engine is much more popular there, and oil is much much cheaper.

    And taxes on cars... well, they are used to high prices on everything. The truth is, taxes did not let most of those countries bring in, or make, SUVs, but those doors are opening, and regardless of sticker price demand for those cars is growing.

    Panther_Black_VX: I am not sure if it is actual tax on number of TVs in a household.
    In my country we have to pay monthly for rights to receive public TV and radio. That's besides if you want to have cable, every home needs to register at least one radio/TV, and it is for "privilege" of having two public TV channels, and some radio channels. It comes from old comunist system, where this "privilege" was inflicted on everyone, so "Big Brother" can speak to his children freely. I do not think it has been changed yet...
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    Re: Worlds apart...

    Originally posted by Panther_Black_VX
    Two excellent points!! I was even SHOCKED to here that there is a "TV" tax in England. Taxing the number of TVs a household has.
    That is how they fund the BBC. I'm pretty sure it is on a per tuner basis and it gets a little weird when you can watch tv on your computer. They really do have "tv detector" trucks that cruise around checking to see how many TVs are turned on in a house to see if it exceeds the number that taxes were paid on.

    Compared to what we get over here with commercials, the BBC is probably worth it. Their stuff is about on par with privately funded channels like HBO and Showtime.

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    here is a song for those who thought the cat commercial was funny. now remember this guy is a comedian he is not telling people to kill kittens.if you did not like the cat commercial then do not listen to the song , you will not like it. shawn http://www.stephenlynch.com/kitten.html
    1COOLVX

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    Ah, what the hell:

    Bonsai Kitten

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    wow....speechless, don't know if i should laugh or ask what the hell is going on!

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    Driving Style

    "My response was mostly regarding European driving style. It seems Chicago downtown in a rush time appears to be really peacefull place comparing to those crazy intersections in Europe."

    Speaking of driving style, Has everyone seen "Ronin"? THAT was some serious driving, and it was for REAL, vetted by race drivers who know what a car can and canNOT do. Not like "Fast and Furious" I hate that holywood crap.
    I know its "fiction" but its more like fantasy. They may as well have had some Werewolves and Vampires mixed into that one.
    I wish the first driving sceen in Ronin would have lasted longer.
    When they four wheel drift around the corner in that Audi...
    Dude!
    That was AWESOME! I love to watch it over and over on DVD.


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    Here in lil' ole England we do have to licence our "tellies" to the tune of 116 quid a year but that covers your house-you can have as many sets as you like.And yes they used to have detector vans
    but thanks to the miniaturisation of today,they carry hand held detectors.They know from a central database if you have a licence or not and if you don't and they detect a signal from your set-you're looking at a maximum fine of a thousand pounds.And if American cars are that powerful/great how come only Yanks and ragheads buy them?

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    Originally posted by Nige
    ...how come only Yanks and ragheads buy them?
    Nige, we Yanks interpret this as racisim, and it will not be tolerated on this board. I'm not sure how the Brits feel about calling someone this, but on this forum it doesn't fly

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    At least he capitalized Yanks.

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