VX_PA . . . you'll have to get used to some comments made here. many members here have a dislike for kids in civics 'cause i dont think they've actually ever experienced sitting in or driving one that is correctly modded.

i've actually raced a few "ricers" taht were sleepers that ripped me when i was driving my dad's Carrera 4...and i pride myself in being a very good driver...followed them into a parking lot...and beat the SHIET out of them...haha no...congradulated them in doing things right. anyways...

I dun know of any minivan that can really rip a modded civic...but then again im probably wrong...