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    E85 is a very different fuel from ~10% blends and requires a number of modifications. If you were going to convert you might as well go 100% ethanol, since it's about that much of a change. You'd be looking at mostly the fuel delivery system, all Viton o-rings and seals, higher-flow injectors, all stainless fuel rail and possibly ECU programming.

    I've looked extensivley into a 100% ethanol conversion on one of my VX's or XR4Ti's, but can't start until our new home is built which will give me the room to setup for ethanol production.

    Here's a good page with a lot of ethanol and E85 info: http://journeytoforever.org/
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    Joe's gonna start a still!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moncha
    Joe's gonna start a still!!!
    LOL! Believe it or not, the Federal permit I'm getting is about $35 (IIRC) and allows me to produce up to 10,000 gallons of 190 proof ethanol per year. You can get permitted to produce up to 500,000 a year, but the inspection requirements are significantly more stringent. Since I currently use between 45 and 70 gallons of gasoline a month now, 10,000 a year should do fine. Due to energy density differences between gasoline and ethanol usage for a 100% ethanol vehicle is about 15 - 25% more by volume. But considering how clean it is to produce and use, couple with a total production cost of about $.60 a gallon after tax credits, the increased consumption still beats gasoline and diesel hands down.

    ATF Fuel Producer Permit

    The best thing about the ethanol is that when stored properly it doesn't go bad like gasoline or diesel. You just need to be mindful it doesn't absorb a lot of moisture (water) which lowers its proof. Then again, if you get water in the fuel system is has absolutely no ill effect on how the engine runs.

    It just boggles the mind that the entire world could run without gasoline and hardly anyone knows or is willing to do anything about it.

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    Just curious on what you think the total estimated cost of the conversion would be...

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    Just curious as to how you will produce the ethanol
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    Well if it doesnt work out, you can always take the left over and corner the market in Limoncello and other infused spirit cordials...

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    Well joe, forget the replacing al the seals bit, cause all seals worldwide have been modified when leadfree came on the market and these will do just fine, all vehicles after 1993 that is, so one excuse less not try it!
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