XBox 360 and you....

[transio]

yeah, isn't the ps3 supposed to be better?

[Maugan_VX]

uhm

no.

[SkidPlate]

I'm actually holding out for the Playstation3. I believe it will be a better system, cell processor, 50GB blu-ray discs, HDMi outputs, I own about 50 PS2 games, etc.

The 360 is definatley impressive, I've played CoD2 and it looks great. I think it may have been rushed to market, but I guess we'll see. I did read a bit the other day about M$ pumping false shortage to increase interest/demand, I figure it's cause they already know it will be an outdone 'old' system sometime next year. Not a long life for a console...

Regardless, I wouldn't buy either till I upgrade my television. I've got my eye on a DLp. But like ISCE said, it's the peripherals that you have to worry about.

[WormGod]

What do I think?

I think the PS3 is still a long ways away, so for now, The 360 will be the best, heh.

Seriously, Sony hasnt even sent us development kits, so I REALLY dont think they even know what they box will do. You can read this and that on the internet all you want, but until the actual developers get kits in, the hardware is only speculation. I do look forward to working with the PS3 though. I am a huge Sony fan and I hope they can stay on top of their empire in the industry.

Nintendo Revolution however.... what can I say. With that stupid as all hell controller gig they are going with, they may as well just give up and start making fishing rods.

[nocturnalVX]

I have read quite a few articles about the Xbox 360, but not one answered my only question... will the new system play "old" Xbox games? Every article talked about the improved graphics (no duh, what a shocker... a new system is better than the previous version!!!), etc. and raved about it, and then failed to mention wether or not my $1500 worth of games would even work on the damn thing... brilliant! Even the Xbox 360 website is useless... unless you want to watch a green glowing dot circle endlessly. Retards. The reason I got a PS2 was it would play all the older titles too. The only reason I got an Xbox in the first place was because I won it from Taco Hell. However, it is a great system & hooked me on Halo. Oh, well (unless one of you know the facts) I guess it'll remain a mystery.

[transio]

Noct, lack of information is sometimes informative in and of itself!

[Cyrk]

XBOX 360 Backwards Compatability List

It looks like they are still going through emulation on some of the games. "The folks at Xbox® are working hard to add more of your favorite games to this list, so check back often for the latest updates."

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/back...ygameslist.htm

[LittleBeast]

[QUOTE=nocturnalVX]I have read quite a few articles about the Xbox 360, but not one answered my only question... will the new system play "old" Xbox games?QUOTE]
The $400 model WILL DEFINITELY play old XBOX games in fact the 360 has hardware (or software?) built in that will immediately increased the graphics of old XBOX games. This has already been tested by www.ign.com on Halo 2 and they did a write up on it and said pretty much the edges of all objects are more defined and clear, and ok say you are looking at a flat rock wall the 360 will automatically make depth to the wall giving it "edges". How this really looks is yet to be seen by me, but as the testers said the effects are minimal but noticable. But yes the more expensive $400 model will be reverse compatible. Hope that helps.
In Christ,
Ryan H

[Amack76]

both of these previous post are only partially true.

only about two hundred games are compatable at launch.

its like this, xbox uses a completely diff gpu than x360 so you have to emulate the older games, this is where the hard drive (included in the $400 model) and xbox love come into play. you insert disc xbox live checks for emulator, if its available it downloads and saves to hard drive. if not tough luck and you gotta wait, they are gonna add more and more as time goes on but not all games will be compatable. this is the list of games that will work at launch IF YOU HAVE THE HARD DRIVE.

Alias
Aliens vs. Predator: Extinction
All Star Baseball 2003
Amped
Army Men: Sarge's War
Atari Anthology
ATV Quad Power Racing 2
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 2
Barbarian
Barbie Horse Adventure
Batman Begins
Battle Engine Aquila
Battlestar Galactica
Blinx 2
BMX XXX
Brute Force
Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Chaos Bleeds
Cabela’s Dangerous Hunts
Cabela’s Outdoor Adventures 06
Cabela's Deer Hunt 2005
Cabela's Deer Hunt: 2004 Season
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
Call of Duty: Finest Hour
Casino
Catwoman
Chicago Enforcer
Circus Maximus
Close Combat: First to Fight
Colin McRae 4
Combat Elite
Commandos 2
Conflict: Desert Storm
Constantine
Crash Bandicoot: Twinsanity
Crash Nitro Kart
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Curse – The Eye of Isis
Dark Angel
Darkwatch
Deathrow
Digimon Rumble Arena
Dinotopia
Dead or Alive 3
Drake
Egg Mania
ESPN MLS Extra Time 2002
Euro 2004
F1 Championship Season 2001
Fable
Fable: The Lost Chapters
Fairly Odd Parents: Breakin' da Rules
FIFA 2003
FIFA 2004
FIFA Street 2005
FIFA World Cup 2002
Fight Night 2004
Fight Night Round 2
Ford Mustang Racing
Ford vs. Chevy
Forza Motorsport
Freedom Fighters
Frogger
Futurama
Fuzion Frenzy
Genma Onimusha
Goblin Commander
Grabbed by the Ghoulies
Grand Theft Auto III
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Gravity Games Bike: Street. Vert. Dirt.
Grooverider: Slot Car Thunder
Half-Life 2
Halo
Halo 2
Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire
Harry Potter & The Sorcerer's Stone
He-Man: Defender of Grayskull
Hitman: Contracts
House of the Dead 3
IHRA Drag Racing 2005 Sportsman Edition
IHRA Professional Drag Racing 2005
Jade Empire
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Judge Dredd: Dredd vs. Death
Jurassic Park Genesis
Kabuki Warrior
Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer
Kids Next Door: Operation VIDEOGAME
kill.switch
Legends of Wrestling
Lemony Snicket A Series of Unfortunate Events
Loons Fight for Fame
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Manhunt
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX 2
Max Payne
Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
Medal of Honor 3 Rising Sun
Medal of Honor Frontline
Medal of Honor: European Assault
Mega Man
Metal Arms: Glitch in the System
MicroMachines Odyssey
Mike Tyson Heavyweight Boxing
Monster Garage
Mortal Kombat: Deception
MTV Music Generator 3
Murakumo
MX World Tour - featuring Jamie Little
Namco Museum X Next Generation
NBA Live 2003
NBA Live 2004
Need For Speed: Underground 2
NFL Blitz 2002
NFL Blitz 20-03
NFL Blitz 20-04
NHL 2004
NHL Hitz 20-03
Ninja Gaiden
Ninja Gaiden Black
Outlaw Golf 2
Outlaw Volleyball
Pariah
Phantom Crash
Pinball Hall of Fame
Pitfall: The Lost Expedition
Predator
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Pro Evolution Soccer 5
Pro Race Driver
PUMP IT UP
Pure Pinball
Puyo Puyo Fever
Quantum Redshift
Rayman Arena
Raze's Hell
Red Dead Revolver
Red Faction II
RedCard 20-03
Robotech: Battle Cry
Rocky: Legends
Rogue Ops
Rugby 2005
Samurai Jack
Samurai Warriors
Scooby Doo: Night of 100 Frights
Scrapland
SeaWorld: Shamu's Deep Sea Adventures
Sega GT 2002
Shadow the Hedgehog
Shellshock:Nam '67
Sid Meier's Pirates!
Simpson's Road Rage
Simpsons: Hit and Run
Sneakers
Sniper Elite: Berlin 1945
Soccer Slam
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Mega Collection
Speed Kings
Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy
Splat Renegade Paintball
SpongeBob Square Pants:Battle for Bikini Bottom
Spy Hunter 2
Spyro: A Hero's Tail
SSX 3
Stake
Star Trek: Shattered Universe
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars: Clone Wars
Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter
Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic
Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic 2
Street Racing Syndicate
Stubbs the Zombie: Rebel Without a Pulse
Super Bubble Pop
Super Monkey Ball DX
SX Superstar
Tecmo Classic Arcade
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Terminator : Dawn of Fate
Test Drive: Eve of Destruction
Tetris Worlds
The Great Escape
The Incredible Hulk
The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer
The Thing
Thief: Deadly Shadows
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Tony Hawk's Underground 2
Tork
Toxic Grind
Ty The Tasmanian Tiger
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3
Urban Freestyle Soccer
Vexx
Volvo: Drive for Life
World Series Baseball 2K
Worms 4: Mayhem
Worms Forts Under Siege
WWE Raw 2
XIII
Yourself!Fitness

P.S. I think i'll load up madden on my 360 and play it right now, i've had it since wendesday

[Maugan_VX]

How can you be a Sony fan after the latest Sony/BMG fiasco?

yes the new xbox will play your old xbox games.

You'll even be able to download existing xbox games on xbox live.

And what exactly is the point of 50gb bluray? So square can make their games COMPLETE FMV movies instead of the 99% they are now?

[MZ-N10]

How can you be a Sony fan after the latest Sony/BMG fiasco?

yes the new xbox will play your old xbox games.

You'll even be able to download existing xbox games on xbox live.

And what exactly is the point of 50gb bluray? So square can make their games COMPLETE FMV movies instead of the 99% they are now?

sure wouldnt tat be sweet? i mean ur playin a game that looks like a movie. look at gt4 it already looks pretty realistic. now they managed to put 500+ cars in a 8gig disc, i wonder how many cars they can put in a 50gig disc.

[transio]

How can you be a Sony fan after the latest Sony/BMG fiasco?

What does being a "fan" of one holding of a corporation have to do with your decision to buy gaming consoles from another of their holdings?

Allow me to draw a comparison:

"How can you buy an XBox after all the buggy Windows crap Microsoft has thrown at us?"

Answer:

"One has nothing to do with the other"

[Amack76]

excellent point

[Maugan_VX]

"How can you buy an XBox after all the buggy Windows crap Microsoft has thrown at us?"

Answer:

"One has nothing to do with the other"

Bad analogy, microsoft has released quality products year after year with free updates to newfound bugs everyday.

On the other hand, Sony attempts to load malicious spyware copy protection onto your machine. (and if you try to tell me its only possible because of windows, I'll laugh because the same thing could be written for OSX) Bad Bad Sony! When I bought a 65" sony TV, the HDTV "unit" went bad, and sony refused to replace it because it only screwed up on ~50% of the channels.

I could go on and on about the crappiness of Sony products and why they are a POS corporation, but its all ancedotal.
I'm wonder if any of these people (http://www.ps2settlement.com/) will be buying PS3's?

[transio]

So basically, what you're saying, is that your personal experience with Sony has been bad, and therefore it's your goal to hurt them in any way possible, including smack-talk on public forums.

Maugan, while I agree with you that most of Sony's products have gone way downhill, every big corporation has a bad side to it. There is no preverbial savior among them. Sure, Sony has jumped into the spyware game... one that Microsoft jumped into years ago. You don't remember all the madness about Windows XP and ME allowing MS to look into your machine? You don't remember the holy craptitude of Windows 98? Or OMG 3.1? How about the fact that Microsoft has virtually monopolized the software industry and overprices its buggy software. How about citing their NMEROUS lawsuits? Although Freeware is certainly making a stand. I've heard the new OpenOffice is badass. Anyhow, I'm getting off topic.

The point is that no big corporations are philanthropical pushovers. They do whatever it takes to make money. End of story. Should that stop you from buying either the XBox 360 or the PS3? Well, no, not in and of itself. But the wise consumer will be wary of both, and will carefully evaluate them to ensure that he's getting a quality product.

I'm already wary of the XBox after hearing the BS about emulation. Sounds like a typical MS crapware non-solution to me.